Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword meanings [was: Accept just PEP-0426]

2012-12-07 Thread PJ Eby
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > That's not what a Conflicts field is for. It's to allow a project to say > *they don't support* installing in parallel with another package. If that's the actual intended use case, the PEP needs some revision. In particular, if there's a behav

Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword meanings [was: Accept just PEP-0426]

2012-12-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:02 AM, PJ Eby wrote: > > *) Not all packages built build on top of that system. There are rpm > > packages provided by upstreams that users attempt (to greater and lesser > > degrees of success) to install on SuSE, RHEL, Fedora, Mandriva, etc. > There > > are debs built

Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword meanings [was: Accept just PEP-0426]

2012-12-07 Thread Donald Stufft
On Friday, December 7, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > That's not what a Conflicts field is for. It's to allow a project to say > *they don't support* installing in parallel with another package. It doesn't > matter why it's unsupported, it's making a conflict perceived by the project > e

Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword meanings [was: Accept just PEP-0426]

2012-12-07 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:47 PM, PJ Eby wrote: > In effect, a "conflicts" field actually *creates* conflicts and > maintenance burdens where they did not previously exist, because even > after the conflict no longer really existed, an automated tool would > have prevented PyDispatch from being ins

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3145 (With Contents)

2012-12-07 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:24 PM, wrote: > On 04:25 pm, eric.pru...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I'm bumping this PEP again in hopes of getting some feedback. >> > This is useful, indeed. ActiveState recipe for this has 10 votes, which is high for ActiveState (and such hardcore topic FWIW). > On Tue, S

Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword meanings [was: Accept just PEP-0426]

2012-12-07 Thread PJ Eby
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:18:40AM -0500, PJ Eby wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:34:41PM -0500, PJ Eby wrote: >> >> Nobody has actually proposed a better one, outside of pack

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

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Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword meanings [was: Accept just PEP-0426]

2012-12-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:18:40AM -0500, PJ Eby wrote: > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 07:34:41PM -0500, PJ Eby wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Donald Stufft > >> wrote: > >> > >> Nobody has actually proposed a better one, outside