Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 4 March 2013 19:40, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> Your feedback on http://bugs.python.org/issue16997 would be greatly >> appreciated. > > Done directly to Antoine on IRC the other day in a conversation with > him and Michael about the compata

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 March 2013 19:40, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Your feedback on http://bugs.python.org/issue16997 would be greatly > appreciated. Done directly to Antoine on IRC the other day in a conversation with him and Michael about the compatability impact of subtests. Happy to do a full code review if that

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 4 March 2013 18:54, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins >> wrote: >>> I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the >>> standard library testing facilities. >> >> That seems li

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 March 2013 18:54, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins > wrote: >> I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the >> standard library testing facilities. > > That seems like too big a topic and too vague a description to discuss > use

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > I'd like to talk about overhauling - not tweaking, overhauling - the > standard library testing facilities. That seems like too big a topic and too vague a description to discuss usefully. Perhaps you have a specific proposal? Or at least ju

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 28 February 2013 05:51, Michael Foord wrote: > Hello all, > > PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good > number of people confirmed to attend. If you are intending to come to the > language summit but haven't let me know please do so. > > The agenda of topics f

Re: [Python-Dev] Planning on removing cache invalidation for file finders

2013-03-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:16:28 -0500 >> Brett Cannon wrote: >> > > In addition, it may be appropriate for importlib to offer a >> > > "write_module" method that accepts (module na

Re: [Python-Dev] Planning on removing cache invalidation for file finders

2013-03-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:38:15 -0500 > Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > > > You can deprecate the heuristic if you want (and can figure out how), > > > but a definite -1 on removing it without at least the usual > > > deprecation period for backwar

Re: [Python-Dev] Planning on removing cache invalidation for file finders

2013-03-03 Thread Brett Cannon
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:16:28 -0500 > Brett Cannon wrote: > > > In addition, it may be appropriate for importlib to offer a > > > "write_module" method that accepts (module name, target path, > > > contents). This would: > > > > > > 1. Allow

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 2, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Michael Foord wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good >>> number of people confirmed

Re: [Python-Dev] Planning on removing cache invalidation for file finders

2013-03-03 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 18:38:15 -0500 Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > You can deprecate the heuristic if you want (and can figure out how), > > but a definite -1 on removing it without at least the usual > > deprecation period for backwards incompatible changes. > > > > That part is easy: ImportWarning s

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Krah, 02.03.2013 21:01: > Stefan Behnel wrote: I'm not so happy with the argument clinic, but that's certainly also because I'm biased. I've written the argument unpacking code for Cython some years ago, so it's not surprising that I'm quite happy with that and fail to se