Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot.python.org down again?

2014-07-11 Thread Ned Deily
In article <62321d60-1197-47a5-b455-6e5200dd5...@stufft.io>, Donald Stufft wrote: > On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On 7 Jul 2014 10:47, "Guido van Rossum" wrote: > > > It would still be nice to know who "the appropriate persons" are. Too > > > much of our infrastructure s

Re: [Python-Dev] == on object tests identity in 3.x

2014-07-11 Thread Ethan Furman
On 07/11/2014 07:04 AM, Andreas Maier wrote: Am 09.07.2014 03:48, schrieb Raymond Hettinger: Personally, I see no need to make the same mistake by removing the identity-implies-equality rule from the built-in containers. There's no need to upset the apple cart for nearly zero benefit. Contain

[Python-Dev] == on object tests identity in 3.x

2014-07-11 Thread Andreas Maier
Am 08.07.2014 05:47, schrieb Ethan Furman: On 07/07/2014 08:34 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Ethan Furman writes: And what would be this 'sensible definition' [of value equality]? I think that's the wrong question. I suppose Andreas's point is that when the programmer doesn't provide a def

[Python-Dev] == on object tests identity in 3.x - uploaded doc patch

2014-07-11 Thread Andreas Maier
Am 11.07.2014 10:54, schrieb Ethan Furman: On 07/11/2014 01:51 AM, Andreas Maier wrote: I like the motivation provided by Benjamin and will work it into the doc patch for issue #12067. The NaN special case will also stay in. Cool -- you should nosy myself, D'Aprano, and Benjamin (at least) on

[Python-Dev] == on object tests identity in 3.x

2014-07-11 Thread Andreas Maier
Am 09.07.2014 03:48, schrieb Raymond Hettinger: On Jul 7, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Andreas Maier wrote: I do not really buy into the arguments that try to show how identity and value are somehow the same. They are not, not even in Python. The argument I can absolutely buy into is that the implemen

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2014-07-11 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2014-07-04 - 2014-07-11) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open4588 (-15) closed 29141 (+55) total 33729 (+40) Open issues wit

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3121, 384 Refactoring Issues

2014-07-11 Thread Stefan Krah
Brett Cannon wrote: > No, the PEPs were fine and were accepted properly. A huge portion of the open > issues are from Robin Schreiber who as part of GSoC 2012 -- https:// > www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2012/robin_hood/ > 5668600916475904 -- went through and updated the st

Re: [Python-Dev] Updates to PEP 471, the os.scandir() proposal

2014-07-11 Thread Ben Hoyt
[replying to python-dev this time] >> The "onerror" approach can also deal with readdir failing, which the >> PEP currently glosses over. > > > Do we want this, though? I can see an error handler for individual entries, > but if one of the *dir commands fails that would seem to be fairly > catas