Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-28 Thread Tony Kelman
Stephen J. Turnbull: Python is open source. Nobody is objecting to somebody else doing this.[1] The problem here is simply that some somebody elses are trying to throw future work over the wall into python-dev space. If that's how it's seen at this point, then it sounds like the logical

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tony Kelman writes: If potential contributors have a desire to get it working in the first place, then they will also be invested in helping keep it working on an ongoing basis. Sure -- as long as it works for them, though, such potential contributors don't necessarily care if it works for

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-28 Thread Tony Kelman
Stephen J. Turnbull: Sure -- as long as it works for them, though, such potential contributors don't necessarily care if it works for anybody else. My experience (in other projects) is that allowing that level of commitment to be sufficient for inclusion in the maintained code base frequently

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Moore
On 28 October 2014 14:46, Tony Kelman kel...@berkeley.edu wrote: Patches should be done well and accompanied with proper documentation so new functionality is fully reproducible. If that's what's holding up review, comments in the bug threads indicating as much would be helpful. Typically

[Python-Dev] PEP 475

2014-10-28 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, At the end of August, I sent the PEP 475 which I wrote with Charles-François Natali: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-August/136077.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-September/136101.html Antoine Pitrou wrote I'm +1 on the whole PEP and R. David

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 475

2014-10-28 Thread Victor Stinner
Oh, I forgot the link to the PEP: http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0475/ Victor ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-28 Thread Glenn Linderman
On 10/28/2014 6:45 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: because it's a fork, it's a different name I think this is an important point, and first brought to this discussion here. A fork is _not_ called Python, but something else... but if it is kept extremely compatible and up-to-date in the hopes of

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 475

2014-10-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
I would like this to happen, but I'm afraid of breakage, and I don't have time. I would be okay if Antoine agrees to be the PEP-BDFL. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I forgot the link to the PEP: http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0475/

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 475

2014-10-28 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:07:45 +0100 Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, At the end of August, I sent the PEP 475 which I wrote with Charles-François Natali: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-August/136077.html

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 475

2014-10-28 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-10-28 22:36 GMT+01:00 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net: Is there an implementation somewhere? There is no implementation yet. This time, I chose to focus on the PEP before working on an implementation :-) We can work on the implementation if it helps discuss the PEP. I created a

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

2014-10-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tony Kelman writes: No, just hearing the words come out of my mouth they sound a little nuts. Maybe not, there are after all half a dozen or more incompatible alternate Python implementations floating around. I think most of them started as from-scratch rewrites rather than source