Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

On 12/5/2014 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: 1. Contributor clones a repository from hg.python.org 2. Contributor makes desired changes 3. Contributor generates a patch 4. Contributor creates account on bugs.python.org and signs the [contributor a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

On 6 December 2014 at 14:40, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 6 December 2014 at 10:44, Benjamin Peterson wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: >>> Do we need to update it? Can it just redirect to the 3 version? >> >> Technically, yes, of course. However, that would unexpected tak

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 479 (Change StopIteration handling inside generators) -- hopefully final text

On 6 December 2014 at 04:42, Guido van Rossum wrote: > For those who haven't followed along, here's the final text of PEP 479, with > a brief Acceptance section added. The basic plan hasn't changed, but there's > a lot more clarifying text and discussion of a few counter-proposals. Please > send s

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

On 6 December 2014 at 10:44, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: >> Do we need to update it? Can it just redirect to the 3 version? > > Technically, yes, of course. However, that would unexpected take you out > of the Python 2 docs "context". Also, that d

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

On 6 December 2014 at 11:39, Donald Stufft wrote: >> Maybe our infrastructure folks will have a thought or two about this? >> I'm willing to put some work into this if we can figure out what >> direction to head in. It could well be tied in to moving >> bugs.python.org in with the rest of our inf

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

> On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:26 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow > wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: >>> We don't exactly have a ton of people >>> constantly going "I'm so bored because everything for Python's development >>> i

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:17:35 -0700, Eric Snow wrote: > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > We don't exactly have a ton of people > > constantly going "I'm so bored because everything for Python's development > > infrastructure gets sorted so quickly!" A perfect example is tha

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

Hi All I just want to put my two cents into this. This would definitely be a great step to take. I have been discussing PEP 462 with Nick, and the automation was definitely something that would be something that would be great to have - I mean, I was submitting a simple documentation patch for bui

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 18:16, Donald Stufft wrote: > > > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 4:07:46 PM Benjamin Peterson > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > It now

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

On 6 December 2014 at 06:24, Donald Stufft wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > This looks like a pretty good write up, seems to pretty fairly evaluate the > various sides and the various concerns. Agreed - thanks for taking this on Brett! For my part, I realised th

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

On Dec 5, 2014 4:18 PM, "Eric Snow" wrote: > > Very nice, Brett. > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > And we can't forget the people who help keep all of this running as well. > > There are those that manage the SSH keys, the issue tracker, the review > > tool, hg.python.or

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

> > On Dec 5, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 4:07:46 PM Benjamin Peterson > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: > > It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process > > of m

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

On Fri Dec 05 2014 at 4:07:46 PM Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: > > It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process > > of making code by Python 2/3 source-compatible: > > https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

Very nice, Brett. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > And we can't forget the people who help keep all of this running as well. > There are those that manage the SSH keys, the issue tracker, the review > tool, hg.python.org, and the email system that let's use know when stuff >

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014, at 16:04, Brett Cannon wrote: > It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process > of making code by Python 2/3 source-compatible: > https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html Are you going to update the 2.7 copy of the howto, too?

[Python-Dev] Python 2/3 porting HOWTO has been updated

It now promotes using tooling as much as possible to automate the process of making code by Python 2/3 source-compatible: https://docs.python.org/3.5/howto/pyporting.html Blog post about it at http://nothingbutsnark.svbtle.com/commentary-on-getting-your-code-to-run-on-python-23 . _

Re: [Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

> On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > This looks like a pretty good write up, seems to pretty fairly evaluate the various sides and the various concerns. --- Donald Stufft PGP: 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA ___ Pyt

[Python-Dev] My thinking about the development process

This is a bit long as I espoused as if this was a blog post to try and give background info on my thinking, etc. The TL;DR folks should start at the "Ideal Scenario" section and read to the end. P.S.: This is in Markdown and I have put it up at https://gist.github.com/brettcannon/a9c9a5989dc383ed7

[Python-Dev] PEP 479 (Change StopIteration handling inside generators) -- hopefully final text

For those who haven't followed along, here's the final text of PEP 479, with a brief Acceptance section added. The basic plan hasn't changed, but there's a lot more clarifying text and discussion of a few counter-proposals. Please send suggestions for editorial improvements to p...@python.org. The

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

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