Re: [Python-Dev] Enable access to the AST for Python code

2015-05-20 Thread Greg Ewing
Guido van Rossum wrote: Hey Ben, this is probably a better topic for python-ideas. I'll warn you that a hurdle for ideas like this is that ideally you don't want to support this just for CPython. It's definitely cool though! This would effectively be a macro system. I thought your position on

Re: [Python-Dev] Enable access to the AST for Python code

2015-05-20 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 21 May 2015 at 12:31, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Hey Ben, this is probably a better topic for python-ideas. I'll warn you > that a hurdle for ideas like this is that ideally you don't want to support > this just for CPython. It's definitely cool though! (Using movie poster > style quotes you can

Re: [Python-Dev] Enable access to the AST for Python code

2015-05-20 Thread Guido van Rossum
Hey Ben, this is probably a better topic for python-ideas. I'll warn you that a hurdle for ideas like this is that ideally you don't want to support this just for CPython. It's definitely cool though! (Using movie poster style quotes you can turn this into a ringing endorsement: "definitely cool" -

[Python-Dev] Enable access to the AST for Python code

2015-05-20 Thread Ben Hoyt
Hi Python devs, Enabling access to the AST for compiled code would make some cool things possible (C# LINQ-style ORMs, for example), and not knowing too much about this part of Python internals, I'm wondering how possible and practical this would be. Context: PonyORM (http://ponyorm.com/) allows

Re: [Python-Dev] Automated testing of patches from bugs.python.org

2015-05-20 Thread Olemis Lang
On 5/19/15, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/19/2015 11:02 AM, Kushal Das wrote: >> Hi, >> Hi ! I'm not very familiar with python-dev development workflows . Nonetheless I just wanted to mention something that proved to be useful for me in the past . >> With the help of CentOS project I am happy to an

Re: [Python-Dev] Automated testing of patches from bugs.python.org

2015-05-20 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/20/2015 3:44 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: This was intended to add status for bugs.python.org, but the work on Roundup had stalled due to uncertainty and despair on how to handle utf-8 (internal to Roundup) vs unicode (internal to Jinja2) in this issue: http://issues.roundup-tracker.org/iss

[Python-Dev] PEP 484 (Type Hints) -- penultimate(?) draft

2015-05-20 Thread Guido van Rossum
I'm happy to present a much updated PEP 484 for your review. It will (hopefully) appear on python.org within the next hour. I'm also working on an implementation ( https://github.com/ambv/typehinting/tree/master/prototyping) which I hope will be good enough to include in beta 1, assuming the BDFL-D

Re: [Python-Dev] Automated testing of patches from bugs.python.org

2015-05-20 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/19/2015 11:02 AM, Kushal Das wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> With the help of CentOS project I am happy to announce an automated >> system [1] to test patches from bugs.python.org. This can be fully >> automated >> to test the patches whenever som