Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 18 Jul 2015 1:19 pm, "Nick Coghlan" wrote: > I'm with Antoine in wondering why we even bother with contributing when the thanks we can expect is for people to feel entitled to demand we spend hours of our time debating trivial details Sorry, I crossed a line there - I know everyone posting to

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Tighten-up code in the set iterator to use an entry pointer rather than

2015-07-18 Thread Ezio Melotti
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Serhiy Storchaka > wrote: >> >> On 08.07.15 01:45, Raymond Hettinger wrote: >>> >>> P.S. I don't think python-dev post was necessary or helpful (and I still >>> haven't had a chance to read the whole threa

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
s.krah writes: > Sorry, that amounts to twisting my words. Let's not play the dozens here. That just extends the thread to no point. > It would be a great loss if he really stops and I hope he'll > reconsider. I agree with both points. I don't think anybody disagrees, so let's not belabor

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-18 Thread s.krah
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Hypothetically speaking, I'd wager that someone writing an >> industrial strength concurrent garbage collector is *far more >> likely* to share Antoine's attitude. > I hope not. It's one thing to wish that one can be surrounded by > pee

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
s.krah writes: > I don't think growing committer numbers is CPython's #1 problem. Maybe not; not being a committer I don't have a strong opinion myself. However, committers, and especially the group qualified for the BD1P role, regularly post wishes for more senior developers to these lists. >

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-18 Thread s.krah
Ein Sa, 18 Jul 2015 04:34:19 + Stephen J. Turnbull hat geschrieben Antoine Pitrou writes: > [...] is amongst the reasons why I'm stopping contributing to > CPython. > We'll miss your code. But you're only one committer, even if you've > contributed mo

[Python-Dev] Reminder: Python 3.5 beta 4 is tagged in one week

2015-07-18 Thread Larry Hastings
Approximately a week from when I post this, I'll be tagging Python 3.5 beta 4, which is the last beta before we go to release candidates. Please wind up all your bug fixes soon, I'd really like checkins to 3.5 to stop soon. And a minor reminder: when we hit Release Candidate 1, I'll be swi

[Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

2015-07-18 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi Antoine, I'm really sad to read your message. Antoine is one of the most active Python core developer and it would be a big loss if he really stops contributing. Antoine helped me to stop the drug called "micro optimization", he always has good advices on the Python development. I tried to sta