Re: [Python-Dev] Proposing the deprecation of the pyvenv script

2015-09-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/19/2015 1:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Barry Warsaw writes: > One thing that came up in a similar discussion is pip, and the > suggested move to `python -m pip`, which makes a lot of sense. > However, *inside* a virtualenv, there's no ambiguity about the > Python version associ

Re: [Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Lawrence writes: > I agree very strongly with your point here. Raising umpteen issues > over installation failures when a full release comes out strikes me > as below the belt when there have been multiple previous releases > without a squeak. Raising issues is always useful and appropr

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposing the deprecation of the pyvenv script

2015-09-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > One thing that came up in a similar discussion is pip, and the > suggested move to `python -m pip`, which makes a lot of sense. > However, *inside* a virtualenv, there's no ambiguity about the > Python version associated with direct `pip` invocation, so it still > makes

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposing the deprecation of the pyvenv script

2015-09-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 19 September 2015 at 01:16, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 18, 2015, at 07:53 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >>I currently use pyvenv directly, but I agree with starting a migration >>to only supporting the more explicit "python -m venv". There's always >>an inherent ambiguity on *nix with unqualified

Re: [Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/18/2015 9:18 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: Sadly, Python 3.5.0 comes with regressions. FYI I fixed the following regressions: The tracker needs a new keyword: '3.5regression', to match others. "OSError in os.waitpid() on Windows" http://bugs.python.org/issue25118 "Windows: datetime.datetim

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2015-09-18 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2015-09-11 - 2015-09-18) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open5130 (+54) closed 31798 (+45) total 36928 (+99) Open issues wit

Re: [Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/09/2015 16:27, R. David Murray wrote: Once Steve comes back from vacation he's going to have a lot of Windows install issues to look at. IMO, we should resolve those, and then issue 3.5.1. It's really too bad more people didn't test the installation with the release candidates, and I'm ve

Re: [Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread R. David Murray
Once Steve comes back from vacation he's going to have a lot of Windows install issues to look at. IMO, we should resolve those, and then issue 3.5.1. It's really too bad more people didn't test the installation with the release candidates, and I'm very glad that those people who did so did so...

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposing the deprecation of the pyvenv script

2015-09-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 18, 2015, at 07:53 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >I currently use pyvenv directly, but I agree with starting a migration >to only supporting the more explicit "python -m venv". There's always >an inherent ambiguity on *nix with unqualified version sensitive >Python commands as to whether they're

[Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread Victor Stinner
(Oh hey, I don't understand how I sent the previous email. Mistake with keyboard shortcut in Gmail?) Hi, Sadly, Python 3.5.0 comes with regressions. FYI I fixed the following regressions: "OSError in os.waitpid() on Windows" http://bugs.python.org/issue25118 "Windows: datetime.datetime.now() ra

[Python-Dev] My collection of Python 3.5.0 regressions

2015-09-18 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Sadly, Python 3.5.0 comes with regressions. FYI I fixed the following regressions: "OSError in os.waitpid() on Windows" http://bugs.python.org/issue25118 "Windows: datetime.datetime.now() raises an OverflowError for date after year 2038" http://bugs.python.org/issue25155 Victor ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposing the deprecation of the pyvenv script

2015-09-18 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 18 September 2015 at 05:04, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 17, 2015, at 06:40 PM, Brett Cannon wrote: > >>I propose that the pyvenv script be deprecated in Python 3.5.1 and >>removed in Python 3.8. The reason for this proposal is because it is >>non-obvious what version of Python a pyvenv command