[Python-Dev] Unable to submit a patch to the tracker

2015-10-31 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
I'm unable to submit any file to any issue, neither via web-form nor via e-mail. Checked with different browsers from different computers. Meta-tracker doesn't work too. http://psf.upfronthosting.co.za/roundup/meta/issue575 ___ Python-Dev mailing lis

Re: [Python-Dev] If you shadow a module in the standard library that IDLE depends on, bad things happen

2015-10-31 Thread Steven D'Aprano
CC'ing Python-Ideas. Follow-ups to Python-Ideas please. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 09:22:15PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: > Leaving IDLE aside, the reason '' is added to sys.path is so that people > can import their own modules. This is very useful. Shadowing is the > result of putting it at the f

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-31 Thread Guido van Rossum
Eh. I don't see the point of arguing about the order. String literals may have one or more character prefixes that modify the meaning. Some of those prefixes may be combined; others may not. Given that we allow combining the r and b prefixes in either order, and we allow combining r and f, I don't

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-31 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/31/2015 8:48 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: Given that "f" is standing for a runtime transformation (unlike the purely declarative "b" and "r"), it makes sense to me to mentally translate it as "magic_format_call_that_needs_compiler_assistance()", so requiring the "f" to be first isn't arbitrary,

Re: [Python-Dev] Should PEP 498 specify if rf'...' is valid?

2015-10-31 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 28 October 2015 at 20:05, Alexander Walters wrote: > Have you ever used a command line application that --accepted --Boolean > --flags? Have you ever found one that required the flags to be in order? > You remember how much you hated that application for being so arbitrary > about the input?