Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 495 implementation

2016-06-28 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
Dear All, I have not received any responses since my first post in this thread in September last year. This time I am adding python-dev to BCC in hopes to reach a larger audience. With the date of the first beta (2016-09-07) fast approaching, I would like to commit PEP 495 implementation hopefu

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for CPython 3.5.3 release

2016-06-28 Thread Larry Hastings
On 06/28/2016 04:23 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Larry Hastings wrote: By the way, I don't know why you Cc'd Nick and Brett. While they're fine fellows, they aren't on the release team, and they aren't involved in these sorts of decisions. We're all involved in

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for CPython 3.5.3 release

2016-06-28 Thread Raymond Hettinger
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:42 AM, Larry Hastings wrote: > > By the way, I don't know why you Cc'd Nick and Brett. While they're fine > fellows, they aren't on the release team, and they aren't involved in these > sorts of decisions. We're all involved in those sort of decisions. Raymond

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for CPython 3.5.3 release

2016-06-28 Thread Larry Hastings
On 06/28/2016 02:05 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote: Larry and the release team: would it be possible to make an "emergency" 3.5.3 release? I'd like to hear from the other asyncio reviewers: is this bug bad enough to merit such an "emergency" release? Thanks, //arry/ ___

Re: [Python-Dev] Request for CPython 3.5.3 release

2016-06-28 Thread Larry Hastings
On 06/28/2016 02:05 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote: Long story short, I've discovered that asyncio is broken in 3.5.2. Specifically, there is a callbacks race in `loop.sock_connect` which can make subsequent `loop.sock_sendall` calls to hang forever. This thing is very tricky and hard to detect and de

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 520: Preserving Class Attribute Definition Order (round 5)

2016-06-28 Thread Eric Snow
On Jun 28, 2016 2:56 PM, "Guido van Rossum" wrote: > > Awesome. That addresses my last concerns. PEP 520 is now accepted. > Congratulations! Yay! Thank you and to all those that gave such good feedback. -eric (phone) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python

[Python-Dev] Request for CPython 3.5.3 release

2016-06-28 Thread Yury Selivanov
Long story short, I've discovered that asyncio is broken in 3.5.2. Specifically, there is a callbacks race in `loop.sock_connect` which can make subsequent `loop.sock_sendall` calls to hang forever. This thing is very tricky and hard to detect and debug; I had to spend a few hours investigating wh

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 520: Preserving Class Attribute Definition Order (round 5)

2016-06-28 Thread Ethan Furman
On 06/28/2016 01:55 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: Awesome. That addresses my last concerns. PEP 520 is now accepted. Congratulations! And more Congratulations!! -- ~Ethan~ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mail

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 520: Preserving Class Attribute Definition Order (round 5)

2016-06-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
Awesome. That addresses my last concerns. PEP 520 is now accepted. Congratulations! On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Eric Snow wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Eric Snow >> wrote: >>> I suppose I'm having a hard time lettin

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 520: Preserving Class Attribute Definition Order (round 5)

2016-06-28 Thread Eric Snow
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Eric Snow > wrote: >> I suppose I'm having a hard time letting go of the attractiveness of >> "read-only == complete". However, given that you've been pretty clear >> what you think, I'm more at ease a

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 520: Preserving Class Attribute Definition Order (round 5)

2016-06-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Eric Snow wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> > This version looks fine to me. >> >> Same to me, mostly. > > I've updated the PEP per everyone's comments [1], except I sti

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 520: Preserving Class Attribute Definition Order (round 5)

2016-06-28 Thread Eric Snow
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> > This version looks fine to me. > > Same to me, mostly. I've updated the PEP per everyone's comments [1], except I still haven't dropped the read-only __definition_order__ constra