[Python-Dev] What's the status of PEP 515?

The implementation of '_' in numeric literals is here: http://bugs.python.org/issue26331 And to add '_' in int.__format__ is here: http://bugs.python.org/issue27080 But I don't want to add support in int.__format__ unless numeric literal support is added. So, Georg and Serhiy: is issue 26331

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Mark Shannon wrote: > The "smartness" of checkers is not the problem (for this example, at least) > the problem is that checkers must conform to the rules laid down in PEP 484 > and (in whatever form it finally takes) PEP 526. > It sounds like mypy

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 525, fourth update

Thanks Yury! I am hereby accepting PEP 525 provisionally. The acceptance is so that you can go ahead and merge this into 3.6 before the feature freeze this weekend. The provisional status is because this is a big project and it's likely that we'll need to tweak some small aspect of the API once

Re: [Python-Dev] The Amazing Unreferenced Weakref

This code appears to have been added to fix https://bugs.python.org/issue3100 - A crash involving a weakref subclass. -gps On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM Larry Hastings wrote: > > This is all about current (3.6) trunk. > > In Objects/weakrefobject.c, we have the function >

[Python-Dev] PEP 525, fourth update

Hi, I've updated PEP 525 with a new section about asyncio changes. Essentially, asyncio event loop will get a new "shutdown_asyncgens" method that allows to close the loop and all associated AGs with it reliably. Only the updated section is pasted below: asyncio --- The asyncio event

[Python-Dev] A Pseudo-Post-Mortem (not dead yet) on my Multi-Core Python Project.

I'm not anticipating much discussion on this, but wanted to present a summary of my notes from the project I proposed last year and have since tabled. http://ericsnowcurrently.blogspot.com/2016/09/solving-mutli-core-python.html -eric ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 447: Add __getdescriptor__ to metaclasses

Hi Ronald, The feature freeze for 3.6 is closing in a few days; 3.6b1 will go out this weekend. Did you overcome the issue, or does your PEP need to be postponed until 3.7? --Guido On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 24 Jul 2016, at 13:06,

[Python-Dev] The Amazing Unreferenced Weakref

This is all about current (3.6) trunk. In Objects/weakrefobject.c, we have the function PyObject_ClearWeakRefs(). This is called when a generic object that supports weakrefs is destroyed; this is the code that calls the callbacks. Here's a little paragraph of code from the center: for

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Finally, the notion of annotating expressions is incoherent: > > # Annotating (sub)expressions: the more the merrier! > (x) : bool = (((y): int + (z): float) / (w): complex): quarternion >

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

Mark Shannon writes: > The problem with using the term "variable" is that it is *not* vague. > Variables in python have well defined scopes and lifetimes. Sure, but *hints* are not well-defined by Python (except the syntax, once PEP 526 is implemented). A *hint* is something that the

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On 6 September 2016 at 18:35, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 7 September 2016 at 01:33, Ivan Levkivskyi > wrote: > > On 6 September 2016 at 17:25, Mark Shannon wrote: > >> > >> The issue is not whether the checker can tell that the type of

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting on python directories

Hello Ramu, This is the wrong place to ask for help with your question, this is for development of the Python interpreter. I suggest you subscribe to the Python-List mailing list. For help with publishing packages, see https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShopTutorial On Tue, Sep 06, 2016

Re: [Python-Dev] Requesting on python directories

Wrong mailing list. This is for the discussion of development *of* Python, not *in* Python. You probably want: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Regardless, this page should answer your questions: https://packaging.python.org/distributing/ On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:31 AM,

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On 7 September 2016 at 01:33, Ivan Levkivskyi wrote: > On 6 September 2016 at 17:25, Mark Shannon wrote: >> >> The issue is not whether the checker can tell that the type of the >> *expression* is int, but whether it is forced to use the type of the >>

[Python-Dev] Requesting on python directories

Sir I learn the basics of python from online and I am pretty much confident with my basics and I want to show them to the outside world by publishing them as packages in python. There were set of instructions for that process but I could not figure out the exact process so please help

Re: [Python-Dev] Please reject or postpone PEP 526

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 6 September 2016 at 14:04, Guido van Rossum wrote: >> I'm sorry, but we're not going to invent new syntax this late in the >> game. The syntax proposed by the PEP has been on my mind ever since >> PEP

Re: [Python-Dev] Please reject or postpone PEP 526

On 6 September 2016 at 02:51, Ian Foote wrote: > On 05/09/16 14:46, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> That's not what the PEP proposes for uninitialised variables though: >> it proposes processing them *before* a series of assignment >> statements, which *only makes sense* if you plan to use

Re: [Python-Dev] Please reject or postpone PEP 526

On 6 September 2016 at 14:04, Guido van Rossum wrote: > I'm sorry, but we're not going to invent new syntax this late in the > game. The syntax proposed by the PEP has been on my mind ever since > PEP 484 with very minor variations; I first proposed it seriously on >

Re: [Python-Dev] Please reject or postpone PEP 526

On 05/09/16 14:46, Nick Coghlan wrote: > That's not what the PEP proposes for uninitialised variables though: > it proposes processing them *before* a series of assignment > statements, which *only makes sense* if you plan to use them to > constrain those assignments in some way. > > If you

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On 6 September 2016 at 17:25, Mark Shannon wrote: > The issue is not whether the checker can tell that the type of the > *expression* is int, but whether it is forced to use the type of the > *variable*. The current wording of PEP 526 strongly implies the latter. > Mark, Could

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On 05/09/16 18:40, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Mark Shannon wrote: PEP 526 states that "This PEP aims at adding syntax to Python for annotating the types of variables" and Guido seems quite insistent that the declarations are for the types of

Re: [Python-Dev] Do PEP 526 type declarations define the types of variables or not?

On 05/09/16 23:16, Greg Ewing wrote: Mark Shannon wrote: Unless of course, others may have a different idea of what the "type of a variable" means. To me, it means it means that for all assignments `var = expr` the type of `expr` must be a subtype of the variable, and for all uses of var,

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 467: last round (?)

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:06 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 5 September 2016 at 06:42, Koos Zevenhoven wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> >>> There are two self-consistent sets of names: >>> >> >> Let me add

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 528: Change Windows console encoding to UTF-8

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016, at 06:34, Martin Panter wrote: > Yes, that was basically it. Though I had only thought as far as simple > encodings like ASCII, where one byte corresponds to one character. I > wonder if you really need UTF-8 support. Are the encoding values > currently encountered for Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 467: last round (?)

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Random832 wrote: > On Sun, Sep 4, 2016, at 16:42, Koos Zevenhoven wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> > >> > There are two self-consistent sets of names: >> > >> >> Let me add a few. I wonder

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 528: Change Windows console encoding to UTF-8

On 5 September 2016 at 21:40, eryk sun wrote: > On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Steve Dower wrote: >> On 05Sep2016 1234, eryk sun wrote: >>> It would probably be simpler to use UTF-16 in the main pipeline and >>> implement Martin's suggestion to mix in