Re: [Python-Dev] Slow down...

On 7 May 2018 at 11:30, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I'd very much like a live in a world where Jython and IronPython and > MicroPython and Cython and Pyjamas can all catch up and implement > Python 3.7, 3.8, and so forth. > I'm inclined to agree that a Python 3.8 PEP in the

[Python-Dev] Slow down...

When I think of why Python is so far ahead of Perl in language design, I think it's simply that Python is the result of cautious design, and Perl is the result of exuberant design. I think Python is in danger of becoming a large language - which isn't a good thing. A great language, like Scheme

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows 10 build agent failures

Thanks for the heads-up; I skimmed python-dev but did not check bpo. - Paul On Sun, May 6, 2018, 11:35 AM Zachary Ware wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Paul Goins wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just kind of "looking around" at stuff I can

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows 10 build agent failures

For me, Tcl/Tk failed to build with SDK 10.0.16299.0 , I had to expicitly fall back to 10.0.15063.0 ( https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48559337/error-when-building-tcltk-in-visual-studio-2017 ). May be related if VS was (auto)updated on the builders.|| On 06.05.2018 11:05, Paul Goins

Re: [Python-Dev] Dealing with tone in an email

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:04 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/6/2018 10:03 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> If it were up to me, I would deprecate non-threaded mode immediately, > > > Given that 99% of tkinter users do not need threaded tcl, why cut some of > them off? "Non-threaded"

Re: [Python-Dev] Dealing with tone in an email

On 5/6/2018 10:03 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: Is it ALL of Tkinter that fails in threaded mode? No. It is non-threaded tcl that fails in threaded mode, along with tkinter's attempt to make non-thread tcl work anyway. There

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows 10 build agent failures

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Paul Goins wrote: > Hi, > > Just kind of "looking around" at stuff I can help with, and I noticed a few > days ago that Windows 10 AMD64 builds of Python 3.6/3.7/3.x are generally > failing. > > It seems like the failures started April 16th

Re: [Python-Dev] Use a queue in Tkinter (was: Dealing with tone in an email)

On 5/6/2018 8:51 AM, Stefan Krah wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: What exactly didn't work? I don't understand. https://bugs.python.org/issue33412 Isn't the standard solution to use a queue for updating the GUI? At least I didn't have any problems at all with my one TKinter app, I think the

[Python-Dev] Windows 10 build agent failures

Hi, Just kind of "looking around" at stuff I can help with, and I noticed a few days ago that Windows 10 AMD64 builds of Python 3.6/3.7/3.x are generally failing. It seems like the failures started April 16th around 1am per BuildBot and went from consistently passing to consistently failing.

Re: [Python-Dev] Dealing with tone in an email

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Is it ALL of Tkinter that fails in threaded mode? > > No. It is non-threaded tcl that fails in threaded mode, along with > tkinter's attempt to make non-thread tcl work anyway. There are at least > two different cases. > >

[Python-Dev] Use a queue in Tkinter (was: Dealing with tone in an email)

Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> What exactly didn't work? I don't understand. > > https://bugs.python.org/issue33412 Isn't the standard solution to use a queue for updating the GUI? At least I didn't have any problems at all with my one TKinter app, I think the method is described in the Python

Re: [Python-Dev] Dealing with tone in an email

On 5/5/2018 9:45 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 11:09:21AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: What exactly didn't work? I don't understand. https://bugs.python.org/issue33412 I've read it and I

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 575 (Unifying function/method classes) update

On 5 May 2018 at 18:55, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > Hello all, > > I have updated PEP 575 in response to some posts on this mailing list and > to some discussions in person with the core Cython developers. > See https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0575/ > > The main differences