Here is my first review of https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0587/ and
in general I think it's very good. There are some things I'd like to
consider changing before we embed them permanently in a public API, and
as I'm still keen to have the ability to write Python code for
configuration (to repl
On 2019-03-30 17:30, Mark Shannon wrote:
2. The claim that PEP 580 allows "certain optimizations because other
code can make assumptions" is flawed. In general, the caller cannot make
assumptions about the callee or vice-versa. Python is a dynamic language.
PEP 580 is meant for extension classe
Steve Dower writes:
> On 29Mar.2019 1944, Steve Dower wrote:
>> On 29Mar.2019 1939, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>> Can you get a branch into your pipeline? Then you could just hack the
>>> tarfile test with something quick and dirty like:
>>>
>>> pid = os.getpid()
>>> system("strace -p %d 2>/pa
I wouldn't expect it to be the case in a CI environment but I believe a
umask can be overridden if the filesystem is mounted and configured with
acls set? (oh, hah, Ivan just said the same thing)
-gps
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 9:05 AM Steve Dower wrote:
> On 29Mar.2019 1944, Steve Dower wrote:
>
On 30.03.2019 19:00, Steve Dower wrote:
On 29Mar.2019 1944, Steve Dower wrote:
On 29Mar.2019 1939, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Can you get a branch into your pipeline? Then you could just hack the
tarfile test with something quick and dirty like:
pid = os.getpid()
system("strace -p %d 2>/pa
Hi Petr,
On 27/03/2019 1:50 pm, Petr Viktorin wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 4:22 PM Mark Shannon wrote:
Hi Petr,
Regarding PEPs 576 and 580.
Over the new year, I did a thorough analysis of possible approaches to
possible calling conventions for use in the CPython ecosystems and came
up with
On 30Mar.2019 0747, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> I like this PEP in principle, but the specific "open_for_import" name
> bothers me a lot, as it implies that "importing" is the only situation
> where a file will be opened for code execution.
>
> If this part of the API were lower down the stack (e.g.
>
On 29Mar.2019 2020, Inada Naoki wrote:
> I don't like adding more Python callback from low level.
>
> Python runtime is very complicated already, especially __del__,
> shutdown process, and multi threading. Python callback from low level
> is source of very difficult bugs always.
Asynchronous ca
On 29Mar.2019 1944, Steve Dower wrote:
> On 29Mar.2019 1939, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>> Can you get a branch into your pipeline? Then you could just hack the
>> tarfile test with something quick and dirty like:
>>
>> pid = os.getpid()
>> system("strace -p %d 2>/path/to/strace.out &" % pid)
>>
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 20:34, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Clearly the above needs to accomodate this, possibly with a fallback
> guess. Is sniffing the end components of __file__ at all sane? ending in
> idlelib/pyshell.py or pyshell.py? Or is that just getting baroque?
>
> I don't think these are st
On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 at 07:27, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> On 3/16/2019 3:10 AM, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote:
> > In https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/6541 , I was requested to add
> > tests for an internal C function.
> >
> > As I wrote in
> > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/6541#issu
On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 06:14, Steve Dower wrote:
> On 29Mar2019 1218, Christian Heimes wrote:
> > On 28/03/2019 23.35, Steve Dower wrote:
> >> There is no Python API provided for changing the open hook. To modify
> >> import behavior from Python code, use the existing functionality
> >> provided b
On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 12:45, Steve Dower wrote:
>
> On 29Mar.2019 1830, Victor Stinner wrote:
> > The purpose of the PEP 587 is to have a working document so everyone
> > can look at the proposed API (stay focused to the API rather than
> > bothering with the implementation). IMHO it's now time t
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 12:31, Inada Naoki wrote:
> I didn't know "right way" to chose DeprecationWarning or
> PendingDeprecationWarning.
That's just a documentation fix: "If you're not sure whether to use
DeprecationWarning or PendingDeprecationWarning, use
DeprecationWarning".
Cheers,
Nick.
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On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 20:29, Inada Naoki wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 10:11 PM Inada Naoki wrote:
> >
> > C, Rust, Java, Ruby, PHP, don't have PendingDeprecation.
> > Programmers only need Deprecation. Why programmers need PendingDeprecation
> > only in Python?
> >
>
> Any comments about
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