[Python-Dev] Re: PEP proposal to limit various aspects of a Python program to one million.

2019-12-08 Thread Richard Damon
On 12/6/19 11:08 AM, Michael wrote: > On 03/12/2019 17:15, Mark Shannon wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am proposing a new PEP, still in draft form, to impose a limit of >> one million on various aspects of Python programs, such as the lines >> of code per module. >> >> Any thoughts or feedback? >>

[Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.8 problem with PySide

2019-12-08 Thread Christian Tismer
On 08.12.19 09:49, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Fri., 6 Dec. 2019, 3:31 am Christian Tismer, > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > during the last few weeks I have been struggling quite much > in order to make PySide run with Python 3.8 at all. > > The expected prob

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP proposal to limit various aspects of a Python program to one million.

2019-12-08 Thread Jim J. Jewett
There is value in saying "These are things that might be limited by the implementation." There is great value in documenting the limits that CPython in particular currently chooses to enforce. Users may want to see the numbers, and other implementations may wish to match or exceed these minimu

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP proposal to limit various aspects of a Python program to one million.

2019-12-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 02:42, Michael wrote: > A program has exactly - zero (0) of something, one (1) of something, or > infinite. The moment it gets set to X, the case for X+1 appears. > > Since we are not talking about zero, or one - I guess my comment is make > sure it can be used to infinity.

[Python-Dev] Re: Rejecting PEP 606 and 608

2019-12-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 20:39, Paul Moore wrote: > On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 09:00, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > For pre-PEPs, the approach I now like is to make a local PR in my *fork* of > > the PEPs repo. Then I'll only change it into a PR against the main repo > > when it's time to assign a PEP number

[Python-Dev] Handling cross-distro variations when running autoreconf?

2019-12-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
Hi folks, While reviewing https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/17303/files, I noticed that the configure script update removed the options for `--runstatedir`. Those options appear to come from a Debian patch that other distros don't yet have: https://sources.debian.org/patches/autoconf/2.69-11/

[Python-Dev] Re: Rejecting PEP 606 and 608

2019-12-08 Thread Paul Moore
On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 09:00, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > On Sat., 7 Dec. 2019, 2:08 am Victor Stinner, wrote: >> >> Le ven. 6 déc. 2019 à 16:00, Guido van Rossum a écrit : >> > Let's try to avoid having PEP discussions in the peps tracker, period. >> > That repo's tracker is only meant to handle ma

[Python-Dev] Re: Rejecting PEP 606 and 608

2019-12-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat., 7 Dec. 2019, 2:08 am Victor Stinner, wrote: > Le ven. 6 déc. 2019 à 16:00, Guido van Rossum a écrit : > > Let's try to avoid having PEP discussions in the peps tracker, period. > That repo's tracker is only meant to handle markup and grammar. > > I recall that some PEPs have been discus

[Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.8 problem with PySide

2019-12-08 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri., 6 Dec. 2019, 3:31 am Christian Tismer, wrote: > Hi guys, > > during the last few weeks I have been struggling quite much > in order to make PySide run with Python 3.8 at all. > > The expected problems were refcounting leaks due to changed > handling of heaptypes. But in fact, the runtime