[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead

2020-11-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul Sokolovsky writes: > Also to clarify, [cowboy attitude] referred to difference in > approaches in response to particular issue(s) raised. One thing is > to say "it's hard to implement it better with the limited VM > infrastructure and resources we have" (that of course leads to >

[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead

2020-11-29 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 01:54:53 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > Paul Sokolovsky writes: > > > Well, I'd call that "cowboy attitude in programming language > > design" ;-). > > That was uncalled for, especially since you're selling an idea without > an implementation yourself.

[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead

2020-11-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Paul Sokolovsky writes: > Well, I'd call that "cowboy attitude in programming language > design" ;-). That was uncalled for, especially since you're selling an idea without an implementation yourself. > We'd certainly make it blend well with the rest of Python. But how long will that take?

[Python-Dev] Re: Distro packagers: PEP 615 and the tzdata dependency

2020-11-29 Thread Miro HronĨok
On 11/28/20 9:30 PM, Paul Ganssle wrote: Considering the people involved and the nature of the list, I suspect that adding a new @python.org mailing list would be better than discourse. In my experience, it's very difficult to just follow a single topic on the discourse, and most people

[Python-Dev] Re: Ideas for improving the contribution experience

2020-11-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> My suggestion: create the developers by creating group(s) of > mentors Do you know about https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/core-mentorship.python.org/ and if you do, why isn't that what you suggest? ___ Python-Dev mailing list --

[Python-Dev] Re: Distro packagers: PEP 615 and the tzdata dependency

2020-11-29 Thread Frederik Rietdijk
I would subscribe as well for Nixpkgs. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:02 PM Tianon Gravi wrote: > > I'd love to have an easy way to keep them in the loop. > > I'm one of the maintainers on https://github.com/docker-library/python > (which is what results in https://hub.docker.com/_/python), and I'd

[Python-Dev] Re: Distro packagers: PEP 615 and the tzdata dependency

2020-11-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun., 29 Nov. 2020, 6:31 am Paul Ganssle, wrote: > Considering the people involved and the nature of the list, I suspect that > adding a new @python.org mailing list would be better than discourse. In > my experience, it's very difficult to just follow a single topic on the > discourse, and

[Python-Dev] Re: Pattern Matching controversy: Don't read PEP 635, read DLS'20 paper instead

2020-11-29 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello, On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 11:36:45 +1100 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 12:10:39AM +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > > > And we don't speak about some obscure "innovative" idea. Const'ness > > aka immutability is well-known and widely used feature in > > programming languages.