[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Expedited release of Python3.11.0b3!!

2022-06-01 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 01/06/2022 à 19:11, Miro Hrončok a écrit : On 01. 06. 22 17:47, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: Hi everyone, Due to a known incompatibility with pytest and the previous beta release (Python 3.11.0b2) and after some deliberation, me and the rest of the release team have decided to do an

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Expedited release of Python3.11.0b3!!

2022-06-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 06. 22 17:47, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: Hi everyone, Due to a known incompatibility with pytest and the previous beta release (Python 3.11.0b2) and after some deliberation, me and the rest of the release team have decided to do an expedited release of Python 3.11.0b3 so the

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] The second Python 3.11 beta (3.11.0b2) is available

2022-06-01 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Update: we have decided to release Python 3.11.0b3. Let's hope this one is free of the curse :) On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 at 07:38, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 01. 06. 22 0:39, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be more practical to bite the bullet and release b3 > immediately > > with this

[Python-Dev] [RELEASE] Expedited release of Python3.11.0b3!!

2022-06-01 Thread Pablo Galindo Salgado
Hi everyone, Due to a known incompatibility with pytest and the previous beta release (Python 3.11.0b2) and after some deliberation, me and the rest of the release team have decided to do an expedited release of Python 3.11.0b3 so the community can continue testing their packages with pytest and

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 689 – Unstable C API tier (was: Semi-stable C API tier)

2022-06-01 Thread Sasha Kacanski
I understand issues and welcome any discussions. For that matter I do not rush to conclusions. I am not expert in C and Python as the rest of the folks on this list but I am pretty good with Python itself. I just suggested naming to be as simple as possible for all relevant API's including full

[Python-Dev] Re: PEP 689 – Unstable C API tier (was: Semi-stable C API tier)

2022-06-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Sasha Kacanski writes: > Why you don't simplify with api A,B,C and forth and then follows > explanation ofr what is stable, unstable, semi... So forth This is exactly what they're hammering out. It's not easy for several reasons, chief of which is that in each case the boundary is a

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] The second Python 3.11 beta (3.11.0b2) is available

2022-06-01 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 01. 06. 22 0:39, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: > Wouldn't it be more practical to bite the bullet and release b3 immediately with this fix? I sympathize with the sentiment and I am sorry that this is not practical but I am not fully convinced about the balance. Beta 3 is in one month and