[Python-Dev] WikiSort

2014-03-15 Thread Aahz
to add to TimSort. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ usenet imitates usenet --Darkhawk ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: https

[Python-Dev] FWD: Windows 3.2.3 64 bit installers are actually 3.2

2012-06-14 Thread Aahz
here: http://bugs.python.org/issue11272 was occuring in what I thought was the latest release - then I realized that my terminal windows stated version 3.2, not 3.2.3 after several uninstalls/installs. - End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] 404 in (important) documentation in www.python.org and contributor agreement

2011-11-26 Thread Aahz
: The devguide doesn't say anything (AFAIK) about the contributor agreement. The devguide seems to now be hosted on docs.python.org and AFAIK the web team doesn't deal with that. Someone from python-dev needs to lead. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ WiFi

Re: [Python-Dev] webmas...@python.org address not working

2011-11-25 Thread Aahz
a bounce. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ WiFi is the SCSI of the 21st Century -- there are fundamental technical reasons for sacrificing a goat. (with no apologies to John Woods) ___ Python-Dev mailing list

[Python-Dev] FWD: gpg keys have problems

2011-06-05 Thread Aahz
trusted keys found - End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Looking back over the years, after I learned Python I realized that I never really had enjoyed programming before

[Python-Dev] FWD: http://www.python.org/dev/patches/

2010-03-09 Thread Aahz
to set the Category field to Documentation. There doesn't appear to be a field named Category. Perhaps there used to be? The correct field name now appears to be Components. - End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com

[Python-Dev] PyCon 2010 registration open! (Early-bird Jan 6)

2009-11-30 Thread Aahz
: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/talks/ http://us.pycon.org/2010/tutorials/ We'll see you in Atlanta! Spread the word! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ The best way to get information on Usenet is not to ask a question, but to post the wrong

[Python-Dev] PyCon 2010: Poster sessions

2009-11-04 Thread Aahz
* Live QA during a plenary timeslot where people can get more information from you while you stand next to your display For more information and to submit a poster proposal, visit http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/posters/ -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

[Python-Dev] LAST CHANCE: PyCon 2010: Call for Proposals

2009-09-26 Thread Aahz
15th. For the detailed call for proposals, please see: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/proposals/ For videos of talks from previous years - check out: http://pycon.blip.tv We look forward to seeing you in Atlanta! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

[Python-Dev] FWD: Windows 7 Compatibility

2009-09-14 Thread Aahz
for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that reading it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. - End forwarded message - -- Aahz

[Python-Dev] FWD: Front Runner Program

2009-09-10 Thread Aahz
eric.albre...@nichecubed.commailto:eric.albre...@nichecubed.com - End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ To me vi is Zen. To use vi is to practice zen. Every command is a koan. Profound to the user, unintelligible

[Python-Dev] REMINDER: PyCon 2010: Call for Proposals

2009-09-03 Thread Aahz
, please see: http://us.pycon.org/2010/conference/proposals/ For videos of talks from previous years - check out: http://pycon.blip.tv We look forward to seeing you in Atlanta! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Look, it's your affair if you want to play

[Python-Dev] Going nomail

2009-07-27 Thread Aahz
I just started a new job today, and I've got a bunch of other stuff going on in my life, so I'm setting python-dev and python-ideas to nomail for a while. Please feel free to ping me directly if you want. I'll be back. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] REVIEW: PyArg_ParseTuple with s format and NUL: Bogus TypeError detail string.

2009-07-24 Thread Aahz
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009, Sean Reifschneider wrote: Thoughts? Please file a report at bugs.python.org to make sure it doesn't get lost. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ At Resolver we've found it useful to short-circuit any doubt and just

Re: [Python-Dev] command line attachable debugger

2009-07-24 Thread Aahz
comp.lang.python (python-dev is for questions about fixing bugs and adding features). -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ At Resolver we've found it useful to short-circuit any doubt and just refer to comments in code as 'lies'. :-) --Michael

Re: [Python-Dev] GSoC: Replace MS Windows Console with Unicode UI

2009-07-23 Thread Aahz
stdout is console and not redirected to [pipe|file], sys.stdout.write(ufoo) can avoid encoding and use WriteConsoleW(Lfoo) Please submit a feature request to bugs.python.org -- with a patch would be even nicer, of course. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] python sendmsg()/recvmsg() implementation

2009-07-23 Thread Aahz
-- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ The volume of a pizza of thickness 'a' and radius 'z' is given by pi*z*z*a ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Experiment: Adding re to string objects.

2009-07-17 Thread Aahz
() which allows you to play with s.re. Ideas should go to python-ideas, please. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur. --Red Adair

Re: [Python-Dev] Any updates on this subprocess/signal bug/issue (Re: subprocess and EINTR errnos)

2009-07-06 Thread Aahz
basis, or will a fix go into Python in the near future? For starters, if there is to be any progress, there needs to be an open issue on bugs.python.org -- have you searched to see if one already exists and created one if it doesn't? -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial migration: progress report (PEP 385)

2009-07-03 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: Should we consider adding a sys.revision attribute and begin the deprecation of sys.subversion? +1 -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ as long as we like the same operating system, things are cool. --piranha

Re: [Python-Dev] I am back

2009-07-01 Thread Aahz
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: Anything happen while I was gone that I should be aware of that is not covered in a PEP? Yes. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ as long as we like the same operating system, things are cool. --piranha

Re: [Python-Dev] Syntax for parsing tuples/lists into C arrays

2009-06-25 Thread Aahz
that kind of tasks, and would appreciate your feedbacks. This should probably get reposted to python-ideas. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ as long as we like the same operating system, things are cool. --piranha

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.0.1 and mingw

2009-06-23 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009, Vincent R. wrote: I wanted to know if you have some patch to compile python 3.x on mingw platform because I found some but doesn't work very well : This question belongs on comp.lang.python, please re-post there. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] draft pep: backwards compatibility

2009-06-19 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009, Georg Brandl wrote: Yet another rather pointless bikeshed: if this becomes policy, maybe it should get a PEP number 100, like PEP 5 or 6. +1 -- I was debating whether to say something. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] draft pep: backwards compatibility

2009-06-19 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009, Benjamin Peterson wrote: 2009/6/19 Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009, Georg Brandl wrote: Yet another rather pointless bikeshed: if this becomes policy, maybe it should get a PEP number 100, like PEP 5 or 6. +1 -- I was debating whether to say something

Re: [Python-Dev] Distributed computing sending the interpreter

2009-06-13 Thread Aahz
concurrency-sig. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Many customs in this life persist because they ease friction and promote productivity as a result of universal agreement, and whether they are precisely the optimal choices is much less important. --Henry

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding key and reverse args to bisect

2009-06-11 Thread Aahz
like this to python-ideas, that's the best place for them. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you don't know what your program is supposed to do, you'd better not start writing it. --Dijkstra ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Wave as a developer communication tool

2009-06-04 Thread Aahz
to Google Maps. That makes me -1 because I want to continue using Lynx. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Given that C++ has pointers and typecasts, it's really hard to have a serious conversation about type safety with a C++ programmer and keep

Re: [Python-Dev] Arguments of MatchObject in re module

2009-05-27 Thread Aahz
of the re module, or are we just stuck with it (and should just change the docstring to match)? Please file a report on bugs.python.org so this doesn't get lost. Attaching a suggested patch for _sre.c would be most welcome. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] python-checkins is down

2009-05-25 Thread Aahz
? (I.e. is svn working properly?) Also, if you could double-check the python-checkins archives to see whether it's just you not getting the messages, that would help. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds

[Python-Dev] FWD: python-checkins is down

2009-05-25 Thread Aahz
- Forwarded message from Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de - Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:59:32 +0200 From: Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de To: Patrick Ben Koetter patr...@python.org Cc: Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com, postmas...@python.org Subject: Re: FWD: Re

Re: [Python-Dev] FWD: FTP URLs for Python source

2009-05-24 Thread Aahz
On Sat, May 23, 2009, Martin v. L?wis wrote: We cannot add an FTP URL to the download page, because we don't run an ftp server anymore, and don't plan to. That's the critical bit. At this point, I don't think anything else needs doing. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

[Python-Dev] FWD: FTP URLs for Python source

2009-05-23 Thread Aahz
http://www.goodall.com I call on each of us to pray for our president. He is who we have for the next four years, and we need him to be successful for all of us. God Bless America, and the President. - End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] doc error in 2.6.2

2009-05-15 Thread Aahz
that it won't get lost. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ In 1968 it took the computing power of 2 C-64's to fly a rocket to the moon. Now, in 1998 it takes the Power of a Pentium 200 to run Microsoft Windows 98. Something must have gone wrong. --/bin

Re: [Python-Dev] Should collections.Counter check for int?

2009-05-13 Thread Aahz
that there's a record of this issue. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized code. --Bill Harlan ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http

[Python-Dev] Switchover: mail.python.org

2009-05-11 Thread Aahz
On Monday 2009-05-11, mail.python.org will be switched to another machine starting roughly at 14:00 UTC. This should be invisible (expected downtime is less than ten minutes). -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ It is easier to optimize correct code

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding a sysconfig module in the stdlib

2009-05-07 Thread Aahz
On Fri, May 08, 2009, Tarek Ziad? wrote: This module can be used by site.py, by distutils, and others, and will focus on this role. This should get kicked around on python-ideas; I don't think it will require a full-blown PEP unless there's disagreement about what it should contain. -- Aahz

Re: [Python-Dev] using help function in Py3k

2009-05-05 Thread Aahz
On Tue, May 05, 2009, s|s wrote: I Ran Python 3.0 for the first time. I used help() function and wrote modules hash. It issues an error. Please file a report on bugs.python.org -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ It is easier to optimize correct

Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: Threading-Aware Profiler for Python

2009-05-04 Thread Aahz
to include modules like this, they need to prove themselves over time and may require PEP approval. If you choose to move the discussion to python-ideas, it would help if you mention known uses of your module. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com

[Python-Dev] FWD: svn down?

2009-05-02 Thread Aahz
- Forwarded message from \Martin v. L?wis\ mar...@v.loewis.de - Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 08:18:56 +0200 From: \Martin v. L?wis\ mar...@v.loewis.de To: Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com CC: pydot...@python.org Subject: Re: [Pydotorg] FWD: [Python-Dev] svn down? Benjamin Peterson reports

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383: Non-decodable Bytes in System Character Interfaces

2009-04-30 Thread Aahz
Cheshire, Apple Computer, regarding Zero Configuration Networking ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/aahz

Re: [Python-Dev] Installing Python 2.5.4 from Source under Windows

2009-04-29 Thread Aahz
has been built. I have read every readme and stop by the IRC channel and there seems to be nothing. Any ideas where I can look? Please use comp.lang.python -- python-dev is for discussion of core development. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383: Non-decodable Bytes in System Character Interfaces

2009-04-29 Thread Aahz
of deciding whether is it PEP-funny-encoded by direct inspection. Assuming people agree that this is an accurate summary, it should be incorporated into the PEP. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383 (again)

2009-04-29 Thread Aahz
for the time that they are written, but also for the future. While telling people to read the source, Luke makes some sense at a specific point in time, I don't think that requiring a trawl through code history is fair. And, yes, PEP-writing is painful. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383: Non-decodable Bytes in System?Character?Interfaces

2009-04-27 Thread Aahz
and their broken software. Maybe you don't, but anyone who has to process random messages does; you have to assume that messages will be broken. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you

Re: [Python-Dev] Bug tracker down?

2009-04-26 Thread Aahz
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009, Mark Dickinson wrote: The bugs.python.org site seems to be down. Dunno -- forwarded to the people who can do something about it. (There's a migration to a new mailserver going on, but I don't think this is related.) -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Bug tracker down?

2009-04-26 Thread Aahz
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009, Mark Dickinson wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009, Mark Dickinson wrote: The bugs.python.org site seems to be down. Dunno -- forwarded to the people who can do something about it. ?(There's a migration to a new

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 383: Non-decodable Bytes in System Character Interfaces

2009-04-24 Thread Aahz
agree that there should be a layer on top that can handle most situations, it also seems clear that the raw layer needs to be readily accessible. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until

Re: [Python-Dev] Tuples and underorderable types

2009-04-24 Thread Aahz
previous discussion prior to 3.0 release, then go through the usual grind of starting with python-ideas before coming back to python-dev. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire

Re: [Python-Dev] Length of str changes after passed in Python 2.5

2009-04-24 Thread Aahz
like a usage question. Please use comp.lang.python (or possibly the tutor mailing list). -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur. --Red Adair

Re: [Python-Dev] Suggested doc patch for tarfile

2009-04-23 Thread Aahz
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009, Ben North wrote: The current documentation for tarfile.TarFile.extractfile() does not mention that the returned 'file-like object' supports close() and also iteration. The attached patch (against svn trunk) fixes this. Please post the patch to bugs.python.org -- Aahz

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue5434: datetime.monthdelta

2009-04-17 Thread Aahz
for Guido to pronounce on (or probably both, in the end). I've set followups to python-ideas for convenience. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur. --Red

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 382: Namespace Packages

2009-04-15 Thread Aahz
you summarize your vote at this point? Given the PEP's intended goals, if you do not oppose the PEP, are there any changes you think should be made? -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups

Re: [Python-Dev] Dropping bytes support in json

2009-04-10 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Apr 10, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Michael Foord wrote: Shouldn't headers always be text? /me weeps /me hands Barry a hankie -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different from all other

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding new features to Python 2.x (PEP 382: Namespace Packages)

2009-04-09 Thread Aahz
. Whether this warrants including PEP 382 in 2.x, I don't know; I still don't really understand this proposal. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups

Re: [Python-Dev] Rethinking intern() and its data structure

2009-04-09 Thread Aahz
implementation strives for simplicity, so there's already some built-in pushback. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python

Re: [Python-Dev] BLOBs in Pg

2009-04-09 Thread Aahz
to c.l.py for more information. ;-) -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Python-Dev] Dropping bytes support in json

2009-04-09 Thread Aahz
attachment that you want to compare against the output from a webserver. Still, as long as it's easy to get bytes for text payloads, I think overall I'm still leaning toward unicode for them. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Why is this newsgroup different

[Python-Dev] Update PEP 374 (DVCS)

2009-04-08 Thread Aahz
Someone listed this URL on c.l.py and I thought it would make a good reference addition to PEP 374 (DVCS decision): http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/version-control/version-control.html -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ ...string iteration isn't

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial?

2009-04-07 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 13:42, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: Perhaps you should ask Aahz what he thinks about being forced to provide two names before being allowed to contribute. Thanks for speaking up! I'm not sure I would have

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial?

2009-04-07 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 16:29, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: What you apparently are unaware of is that Aahz is in fact my full legal name. (Which was clearly the point of Steven's post since he knows that Teller also has only one legal name

Re: [Python-Dev] Shorter float repr in Python 3.1?

2009-04-07 Thread Aahz
, and proposed changing Python accordingly. See http://bugs.python.org/issue1580 Sounds good to me! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ ...string iteration isn't about treating strings as sequences of strings, it's about treating strings

Re: [Python-Dev] calling dictresize outside dictobject.c

2009-04-07 Thread Aahz
. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ ...string iteration isn't about treating strings as sequences of strings, it's about treating strings as sequences of characters. The fact that characters are also strings is the reason we have problems

[Python-Dev] FWD: Documentation site problems

2009-04-06 Thread Aahz
:32:42 +0200 Hi, there contents is missing from the python tutorial: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ BR /Ernst Persson - End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ ...string iteration isn't about treating strings

[Python-Dev] FWD: Library Reference is incomplete

2009-04-06 Thread Aahz
- End forwarded message - -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ ...string iteration isn't about treating strings as sequences of strings, it's about treating strings as sequences of characters. The fact that characters are also strings

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial?

2009-04-05 Thread Aahz
to kernel-style once people get comfortable with Hg? -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ ...string iteration isn't about treating strings as sequences of strings, it's about treating strings as sequences of characters. The fact that characters are also strings

Re: [Python-Dev] PyDict_SetItem hook

2009-04-04 Thread Aahz
be interested in contributing to? As performance moves more into the wider consciousness, having good tools will become increasingly important. GSoC work? -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first

[Python-Dev] Mercurial?

2009-04-04 Thread Aahz
With Brett's (hopefully temporary!) absence, who is spearheading the Mercurial conversion? Whoever it is should probably take over PEP 374 and start updating it with the conversion plan, particularly WRT expectations for dates relative to 3.1 final and 2.7 final. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] BufferedReader.peek() ignores its argument

2009-04-04 Thread Aahz
be a record somewhere in the list archives... (Or possibly the svn logs.) -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition

Re: [Python-Dev] CSV, bytes and encodings

2009-04-01 Thread Aahz
and assign to me. Does it work in 2.x? What was the source of the file? Perhaps there have been changes, but in my last job, I was running into this problem with Python 2.3, and I also needed to open with 'rU' under Linux. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Evaluated cmake as an autoconf replacement

2009-03-29 Thread Aahz
Nice report! Thanks! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. --Brian W

Re: [Python-Dev] Unladen-Swallow: A faster python

2009-03-28 Thread Aahz
was no such accusation. You said that c.l.py was in decline (your own word), and I made reference to the ancient Usenet is dead, news at 11 meme. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/0b3fbfcdb92ae0e3 Mark's question seems pertinent. ;-) -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] About adding a new iterator method called shuffled

2009-03-24 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009, Roy Hyunjin Han wrote: I know that Python has iterator methods called sorted and reversed and these are handy shortcuts. Why not add a new iterator method called shuffled? Please do not post ideas like this to python-dev, please use python-ideas -- Aahz

Re: [Python-Dev] Roundup / Python Tracker enhancements

2009-03-24 Thread Aahz
instance-level changes would be specific to our tracker. Is this for GSoC? If yes, please make sure to include that tag in the Subject: line to make it easier to track. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ At Resolver we've found it useful to short

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposal: new list function: pack

2009-03-20 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009, paul bedaride wrote: I propose a new function for list for pack values of a list and sliding over them: Please switch this discussion to python-ideas -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Programming language design

Re: [Python-Dev] What level of detail wanted for import and the language reference?

2009-03-16 Thread Aahz
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009, Michael Foord wrote: Personally I would rather see the import semantics themselves in the language reference. Either way is fine with me, but it needs to be cross-referenced. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Adopt

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 377 - allow __enter__() methods to skip the statement body

2009-03-15 Thread Aahz
. (Not that it was really a new decision because parts of the Python community have always advocated using exceptions for control flow, but the ``for`` loop enshrines it.) I doubt that using exceptions for control flow in ``with`` blocks will cause anywhere near so much a performance degradation. -- Aahz

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 377 - allow __enter__() methods to skip the statement body

2009-03-15 Thread Aahz
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009, Michael Foord wrote: Aahz wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009, Michael Foord wrote: Note that using exceptions for control flow can be bad for other implementations of Python. For example exceptions on the .NET framework are very expensive. (Although

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-Dev] wait time [was: Ext4 data loss

2009-03-13 Thread Aahz
Python should support various use-cases. Please don't be too aggressive about labeling discussion off-topic. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of indirection. --Butler Lampson

Re: [Python-Dev] Ext4 data loss

2009-03-11 Thread Aahz
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009, Scott Dial wrote: Aahz wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009, Antoine Pitrou wrote: After Hrvoje's message, let me rephrase my suggestion. Let's instead allow: open(..., sync_on=close) open(..., sync_on=flush) with a default of None meaning no implicit syncs. That looks

Re: [Python-Dev] More on Py3K urllib -- urlencode()

2009-03-10 Thread Aahz
thing on usenet? Second, please follow the advice to put ALL patches on the tracker. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of indirection. --Butler Lampson

Re: [Python-Dev] More on Py3K urllib -- urlencode()

2009-03-09 Thread Aahz
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009, Dan Mahn wrote: Any suggestions would be welcome before I try to submit this as a patch. Just go ahead and submit it now; it's easier to review patches when they're in the system, and it also makes sure that it won't get lost. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] More on Py3K urllib -- urlencode()

2009-03-07 Thread Aahz
of these modifications. Submit a patch to bugs.python.org -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of indirection. --Butler Lampson ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Belated introduction

2009-03-07 Thread Aahz
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009, rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: So, a little belatedly, here is my intro. [...] --RDM Welcome! You apparently haven't set your $NAME nor listed a name in your .sig, so how do you prefer to be addressed? Or do you just prefer your initials, like RMS? ;-) -- Aahz

Re: [Python-Dev] IMAP/POP3 servers on python.org?

2009-03-07 Thread Aahz
in simplifying testing outweigh that. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of indirection. --Butler Lampson ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Aahz
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009, Benjamin Peterson wrote: On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of Python 3.1. Congratulations on your first baby! Here's to hoping you release many more of these! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: require python rpms for fc8

2009-02-27 Thread Aahz
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009, shashidhar velagandula wrote: [...] python-dev is the wrong place for this kind of question, please use comp.lang.python In addition, it's not even clear what your question is, please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] A suggestion: Do proto-PEPs in Google Docs

2009-02-26 Thread Aahz
barrier to Google docs is the requirement to fire up a GUI browser and log into Google. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would

Re: [Python-Dev] Choosing a best practice solution for Python/extension modules

2009-02-22 Thread Aahz
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 20:12, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 15:46, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: I am seeing two approaches emerging

Re: [Python-Dev] Choosing a best practice solution for Python/extension modules

2009-02-21 Thread Aahz
in sys.python_only.) Maybe we should move this discussion to python-ideas for now to kick around really oddball suggestions? -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs

Re: [Python-Dev] Choosing a best practice solution for Python/extension modules

2009-02-21 Thread Aahz
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 15:46, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009, Brett Cannon wrote: I am seeing two approaches emerging. One is where pickle contains all Python code and then uses something like use_extension to make sure

Re: [Python-Dev] Choosing a best practice solution for Python/extension modules

2009-02-20 Thread Aahz
this? -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Aahz
spamming python-dev warrants withdrawing it. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization

Re: [Python-Dev] smtplib violates SMTP spec

2009-02-15 Thread Aahz
* Therefore any extension of test_smtplib would need some patches to check this also. If you want to increase the chance of your patch getting into 2.7/3.1, please provide a patch against smtpd in addition to your smtplib patch. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http

Re: [Python-Dev] python seg faults

2009-02-11 Thread Aahz
One more thing: There's a mailing list specifically for help with C extensions, c...@python.org -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker

Re: [Python-Dev] Pycon and Randall Munroe

2009-02-09 Thread Aahz
publicity for PyCon, but it was to some extent a group effort on the pycon-organizers list. PyCon is all about the volunteering! -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs

Re: [Python-Dev] Pycon and Randall Munroe

2009-02-09 Thread Aahz
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009, Guido van Rossum wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: Whoever thought this one up [1], thank you for making me almost choke on my meal due to laughing fits. :-) [1] http

Re: [Python-Dev] IDLE reading IDLESTARTUP or PYTHONSTARTUP on restart

2009-02-08 Thread Aahz
. It isn't quite clear what behavior to install with the enabling patch, so I would like some feedback before submitting it. You haven't received any feedback so far, so I recommend going ahead and submitting the patch to ensure that it doesn't get lost. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com

Re: [Python-Dev] [patch] Duplicate sections detection in ConfigParser

2009-02-03 Thread Aahz
and that unique_sects is True. Please go ahead and post the patch to bugs.python.org; it can always be revised later and this ensures that we have a record. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 4285 Review

2009-02-03 Thread Aahz
to summarize the issue; few people know bug reports by number, and at least some people who might be interested in looking probably won't bother if they have no clue whether it's in their area of expertise. -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's

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