Re: [Python-Dev] Split Misc/NEWS into individual files

2017-02-22 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Barry Warsaw's message of 2017-02-22 11:42:57 -0500: > On Feb 22, 2017, at 01:27 PM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > >OpenStack happily fixed this issue one or two years ago with "reno": > >https://pypi.python.org/pypi/reno > > reno looks interesting but there is at least one thing I

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL ruling request: should we block forever waiting for high-quality random bits?

2016-06-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Cory Benfield <c...@lukasa.co.uk> wrote: > > >> On 9 Jun 2016, at 13:53, Doug Hellmann <d...@doughellmann.com> wrote: >> >> I agree with David. We shouldn't break existing behavior in a way >> that might lead to some

Re: [Python-Dev] BDFL ruling request: should we block forever waiting for high-quality random bits?

2016-06-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from R. David Murray's message of 2016-06-09 08:41:01 -0400: > On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:12:22 +0100, Cory Benfield wrote: > > The Linux kernel can���t change this stuff easily because they mustn���t > > break userspace. Python *is* userspace, we can do what we like, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-03-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 2, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Michael Foord wrote: Hello all, PyCon, and the Python Language Summit, is nearly upon us. We have a good

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Language Summit at PyCon: Agenda

2013-02-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
for discussion so far includes the following: * A report on pypy status - Maciej and Armin * Jython and IronPython status reports - Dino / Frank * Packaging (Doug Hellmann and Monty Taylor at least) Since the time I suggested we add packaging to the agenda, Nick has set up a separate summit

Re: [Python-Dev] question about packaging

2012-12-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig Doug Hellmann wrote: A couple of us from the OpenStack project are interested in getting involved in the packaging rewrite/update project. I was following that work for a while, but have lost track of its current state. Can someone point me

Re: [Python-Dev] question about packaging

2012-12-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Dec 29, 2012, at 5:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:59:05 -0500 Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of us from the OpenStack project are interested in getting involved in the packaging rewrite/update project. I was following that work for a while

[Python-Dev] question about packaging

2012-12-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
A couple of us from the OpenStack project are interested in getting involved in the packaging rewrite/update project. I was following that work for a while, but have lost track of its current state. Can someone point me to the right mailing list, and maybe a status page or something so I can

Re: [Python-Dev] performance of {} versus dict(), de fmd(**kw): return kw trumps all ; -)

2012-11-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Chris Withers wrote: On 14/11/2012 10:11, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Zitat von Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk: a_dict = dict( x = 1, y = 2, z = 3, ... ) What can we do to speed up the former case? It should be possible to

[Python-Dev] Fwd: Mirroring Python repos to Bitbucket

2011-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
To: Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com Subject: Mirroring Python repos to Bitbucket Hey, You guys expressed some interest in mirroring repos to Bitbucket a couple weeks ago. I mentioned we mirror a few Python repos here: https://bitbucket.org/mirror

Re: [Python-Dev] Mirroring Python repos to Bitbucket

2011-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:08:40 -0400 Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@gmail.com wrote: Charles McLaughlin of Atlassian has set up mirrors of the Mercurial repositories hosted on python.org as part of the ongoing infrastructure improvement work

Re: [Python-Dev] Meet the Team on Python Insider

2011-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
I should have made clear that if you have already completed the survey, we still have your data in the queue. The invitation is for anyone who has not yet sent us the info, including new team members. Doug On Aug 7, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: [Renewing this request

[Python-Dev] Meet the Team on Python Insider

2011-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
[Renewing this request for participation since there are a few new members since the original request went out.] We are running a series of interviews with the Python developers on the python-dev blog (http://blog.python.org). There is a short list of questions below this message. If you would

Re: [Python-Dev] Language summit writeup anyone?

2011-06-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: Hi. Unfortunately I'm missing Europython (and language summit) this year. Did anyone do a writeup on what was discussed? Brian Curtin or I can help get the writeup posted to the Python Insider blog. I'm sure there are a lot of people

Re: [Python-Dev] looking for a contact at Google on the Blogger team

2011-05-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
is not needed. If anybody would volunteer to set this up, it could be done in no time. The blog is working again, so we can continue using the tool chain we have. Thanks, Doug -- Doug Hellmann Communications Director Python Software Foundation http://python.org/psf

[Python-Dev] looking for a contact at Google on the Blogger team

2011-05-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
the error on the support forums, but no obvious response from Google. Thanks, Doug -- Doug Hellmann Communications Director Python Software Foundation http://python.org/psf/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

[Python-Dev] Python Insider translations

2011-05-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
I wanted to take a few minutes to let you all know that the recent call for help with translating Python Insider was met with a wave of enthusiastic contributors. We now have teams prepared to translate all posts to Simplified and Traditional Chinese, German, Japanese, Portuguese, Romanian, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Drop OS/2 and VMS support?

2011-04-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:36 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Victor Stinner wrote: Hi, I asked one year ago if we should drop OS/2 support: Andrew MacIntyre, our OS/2 maintainer, answered: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-April/099477.html Extract: The 3.x branch needs quite a

Re: [Python-Dev] Please retract my committer rights

2011-03-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
projects. Thank you very much for you work. We'd always be happy to have you back. In the meanwhile, it would be nice to have another ctypes maintainer, as there are several open issues. There is certainly a opening for a new person with C experience. I'll ask doug hellmann

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions before it's too late (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jesus Cea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/11 22:50, Guido van Rossum wrote: I propose we try to find an embedded blogger who participates in python-dev but is focused on making regular blog posts about the interesting tidbits.

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions before it's too late (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Paul Moore wrote: On 11 March 2011 23:24, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: I'm interested in the task and I guess I'll follow-up with Doug Hellman. I don't follow -ideas close enough to summarize it, but I'd contribute to a -dev blog. Awesome! (And we

Re: [Python-Dev] public visibility of python-dev decisions before it's too late (was: PyCObject_AsVoidPtr removed from python 3.2 - is this documented?)

2011-03-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Tim Lesher wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 01:15, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote: Actually, why not put up a web page of upcoming changes somewhere, that lists major decisions with user impact that were taken on python-dev? Including a link to the relevant

[Python-Dev] framework build for 2.7 using old sqlite?

2010-10-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
I'm trying to write a little program that uses the full text search extension module for sqlite with Python 2.7 on Snow Leopard. I installed Python by downloading the DMG file from python.org. According to the Python docs

Re: [Python-Dev] framework build for 2.7 using old sqlite?

2010-10-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 3, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I'm trying to write a little program that uses the full text search extension module for sqlite with Python 2.7 on Snow Leopard. I installed Python by downloading the DMG file from python.org. According to the Python docs (http

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial migration readiness (was: Taking over the Mercurial Migration)

2010-07-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jul 1, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Stutzbach wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:52 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Even if I make patch in my Mercurial clone - you still can't pull it and I have to attach it to tracker. No gain. Was there ever any discussion about hosting

Re: [Python-Dev] audience-instructors for Teach Me Python Bugfixing needed

2010-05-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
What an excellent idea! We should have these at *every* regional conference. Doug On May 6, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Catherine Devlin wrote: Hey, everybody... I'm Catherine, a database administrator who makes up excuses to write Python instead. I'm not actually here as a core developer, but

Re: [Python-Dev] __file__

2010-02-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 26, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Michael Foord wrote: On 26/02/2010 22:09, Brett Cannon wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:13, Greg Ewing greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote: Michael Foord wrote: I thought we agreed at the language summit that if a .pyc was in the place of the source file

Re: [Python-Dev] status of issue #7242

2010-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: We've recently run into an issue with subprocess on Solaris, as described (by an earlier reporter) in issue #7242. The patch there solves our problem, and has been verified to work by other users as well. What's

Re: [Python-Dev] status of issue #7242

2010-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:38:42 -0500, Doug Hellmann a écrit : I have commit access, can I just check in the patch? If you are sure of yourself, you can. But in this case see my comment on the tracker. OK, good point. I'll see about

Re: [Python-Dev] Enhancing the shutil module

2010-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Jan 18, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Masklinn wrote: On 18 Jan 2010, at 13:40 , Nick Coghlan wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: There's one remaining external call for zip done if the zip module is not found, but I am happy to remove it and throw an exception if it's not found, and keep the external zip

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3003 - Python Language Moratorium

2009-11-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 3, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Michael Foord wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: I've checked draft (!) PEP 3003, Python Language Moratorium, into SVN. As authors I've listed Jesse, Brett and myself. On python-ideas the moratorium idea got fairly

Re: [Python-Dev] A new way to configure logging

2009-10-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: I've had bad experiences in the past with dictionary-based APIs. They seem simpler in the short run, because the user only needs to create some dictionaries. Once the complexity of that nested dictionary grows to a certain point, though,

Re: [Python-Dev] A new way to configure logging

2009-10-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: All three of the contenders for the title of commonly found configuration mechanism - JSON, YAML and Python code - will be expressible, in Python, as Python dicts. So it seems to make sense to add, to logging.config, a new callable bound to

Re: [Python-Dev] eggs now mandatory for pypi?

2009-10-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 5, 2009, at 4:59 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Fredrik Lundh fred...@pythonware.com writes: it's revews like this that makes me wonder if releasing open source is a good idea: no egg - worst seen ever, remove it from pypi or provide an egg (jensens, 2009-10-05, 0 points) Heh. If harsh,

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 389: argparse - new command line parsing module

2009-09-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Michael Foord wrote: Brett Cannon wrote: I am going to state upfront that I am +1 for this and I encouraged Steven to submit this PEP on the stdlib-SIG. I still remember watching Steven's lightning talk at PyCon 2009 on argparse and being impressed by it (along

Re: [Python-Dev] IronPython specific code in inspect module

2009-05-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On May 19, 2009, at 10:21 PM, David Stanek wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2009/5/19 Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk: I have IronPython specific versions of several of these functions which use .NET reflection and inspect could

Re: [Python-Dev] Python on PowerPC?

2009-05-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
On May 20, 2009, at 3:31 AM, Chris Plasun wrote: Hi, I'm to develop console apps on a Linux embedded PowerPC board (Freescale MPC8313). Is there a Python release for the PowerPC platform? We used to run a version of the interpreter on PPC for a microcontroller board we had, but we

Re: [Python-Dev] Documentation idea

2008-10-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: Raymond Hettinger wrote: * It will assist pypy style projects and other python implementations when they have to build equivalents to CPython. * Will eliminate confusion about what functions were exactly intended to do. * Will

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

2008-10-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Thomas Wouters wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:44, Antoine Pitrou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Wouters thomas at python.org writes: If anyone feels particularly frustrated by the old URLs breaking, I wouldn't mind adding a redirection for each

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

2008-10-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Doug Hellmann schrieb: Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is quite a lot

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

2008-10-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: If linking to the new version could be done easily, we could as well directly redirect. The problem is that having that mapping in the first place is hard. I was looking for the easy route. If the layout of the new docs changed