Re: [Python-Dev] VS 2010 compiler

2015-09-30 Thread Laurent Gautier
Hi Carl, Looks promising. Any chance the effort would consider cross-compiling (from Linux) as a possible objective ? Best, Laurent On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 3:58 PM Carl Kleffner wrote: > Concerning the claims that mingw is difficult: > > The mingwpy package is a sligthly modified mingw-w64 bas

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013-07-25 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/25/2013 06:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote: My meaning was the use of 2to3's machinery (and fire a message if a translation occurs) not 2to3 itself, obviously. I don't understand what you mean is the difference. //Lennar

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013-07-25 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/25/2013 01:19 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote: - a user is running a python script (he expects to be working), and is using the default /usr/bin/python (formerly Python 2, now Python 3). If the program fails because of obvious Python 2

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013-07-25 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/25/2013 11:45 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Laurent Gautier wrote: On 07/24/2013 06:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Laurent Gautier wrote: - errors that are typical of "Python 2 script running with Python 3"-sp

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013-07-24 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/24/2013 06:30 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Laurent Gautier wrote: - errors that are typical of "Python 2 script running with Python 3"-specific are probably limited (e.g., use of unicode, use of xrange, etc...) The most common, in interactive

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 as a Default in Linux Distros

2013-07-24 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 07/24/2013 05:56 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: - Should we point /usr/bin/python to Python 3 when we make the move? No. To be more explicit. I think it's perfectly fine to not pr

Re: [Python-Dev] GSoC 2010 is on -- projects?

2010-03-23 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 3/20/10 4:13 AM, C. Titus Brown wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:00:48AM +0100, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: Whether this is worth weeks of work or not will depend on a given student's knowledge about Python 3, and I'd suspect that the GSoC would be an opportunity for a number of applicant to ac

Re: [Python-Dev] GSoC 2010 is on -- projects?

2010-03-19 Thread Laurent Gautier
an be time-consuming, so I am hesitating to claim that 2-3 days of an high-school student would be enough. Could several ports be bundled in a GSoC (the target projects would be grouped by theme, somehow). L. On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Laurent Gautier mailto:lgaut...@gmail.com>>

Re: [Python-Dev] GSoC 2010 is on -- projects?

2010-03-18 Thread Laurent Gautier
On 3/19/10 3:36 AM, C. Titus Brown wrote: Hi all, once again, the PSF has been accepted as a mentoring foundation for the Google Summer of Code! This year, we're going to emphasize python 3 porting, so please think of projects you'd like to see tackled. Hi, Does this mean that any other pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] [poll] New name for __builtins__

2007-11-28 Thread Laurent Gautier
I find __root_namespace__ rather explicit without being unbearably long. If length is an issue, and __root__ not found explicit, I am suggesting __session__. L. 2007/11/28, Stephen Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > (The lurker awakes...) > > > > > > > If not that I suggest something like __inject

Re: [Python-Dev] The docs, reloaded

2007-05-23 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/5/23, Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nick Craig-Wood schrieb: > > > Being a seasoned unix user, I tend to reach for pydoc as my first stab > > > at finding some documentation rather than (after excavating the mouse > > > from under a pile of

Re: [Python-Dev] The docs, reloaded

2007-05-21 Thread Laurent Gautier
I would agree with the point that python core should be considered first, but I would also only see beneficial to leave the door open to the need of other packages. I have (briefly but intensely) worked on a revamp of pydoc earlier on this year, and while collecting requirements from a number of p

Re: [Python-Dev] pydoc II

2007-03-11 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/3/11, Gustavo Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 3/11/07, Laurent Gautier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > A prototype is being worked on, and I have been looking at code and/or > > functionalities in pydoc, epydoc, pydoctor, and ipython (for the > &g

[Python-Dev] pydoc II

2007-03-11 Thread Laurent Gautier
Hi, There was a thread some weeks ago about work on pydoc, with the admitted aim of proposing something as an upgrade to the current pydoc. We had a number of suggestions, on this very list or privately, and we looked into having something that would not only retain the capabilities of the curren

[Python-Dev] pydoc - revised

2007-01-14 Thread Laurent Gautier
Hi all, This is a somehow an update to the thread on pydoc started by Ron. Since the last entry we took the bull by the horns (so to speak), and are seriously aiming at delivering something that can qualify as: - a revision of the module pydoc - something that will facilitate the inclusion of ide

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-08 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/1/7, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Laurent Gautier wrote: > > 2007/1/6, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [...] > I'd like to know more about using the sandbox, I know it would be easy for > people to read the source there, but who all can have write access

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-05 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/1/6, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Laurent Gautier wrote: [cut] > >> I think any API issues could be worked out. Are there any programs > >> you know of, > >> (yours?), that import pydoc besides the python console? > > > > What I did

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-05 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/1/5, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 06:01:22PM +0800, Laurent Gautier wrote: > > Well, if you are ok with having the source tree hosted in a > > SVN/CVS/alike I am on > > (opening an account on sourceforge or savannah -for example- woul

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-05 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/1/5, Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Talin wrote: > > One issue that needs to be worked out, however, is the division of > > responsibility between markup processor and output formatter. Does a > > __markup__ plugin do both jobs, or does it just do parsing, and leave > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-05 Thread Laurent Gautier
2007/1/5, Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [cut] > On the other hand, I've often seen the question of why pydoc does > both text and HTML generation instead of generating some intermediate > data structure from which both kinds of output are produced. The > answer is: I tried it. The result turne

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-05 Thread Laurent Gautier
Ron, Thanks for your detailed answer. I inserted comments below. 2007/1/5, Ron Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Laurent Gautier wrote: [cut] > > > Introspection is probably already available in the separate module > > 'inspect', > > and what a code pydoc wou

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Improvements / Rewrite

2007-01-04 Thread Laurent Gautier
Ron, I agree that pydoc could benefit a bit from some cleanup. As you point it out, the ability to write quick viewers would be very helpful. I came across that when wanting to develop script on a remote web server for which I only had FTP access: I ended up having to study pydoc more than I wante