On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Hrvoje Niksic wrote:
> But I can't seem to find a way to retrieve the element corresponding to
> 'foo', at least not without iterating over the entire set. Is this an
> oversight or an intentional feature? Or am I just missing an obvious way to
> do this?
>>> que
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 20:25 +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> I disagree. The user usually does not know which kind of flushing is needed in
> order for his data to be safe. Actually, he probably doesn't even know what
> flushing means, and that files are ever "closed".
>
> However, I also think that
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:53 AM, wrote:
> I actually like StableDict best. When I hear that I think, "ah, the
> key order is stable in the face of insertions, unlike a regular dict".
> Nor can I at the moment think of an alternative explanation of what a
> "StableDict" might be.
Hmm, perhaps a b
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:53 AM, wrote:
> I actually like StableDict best. When I hear that I think, "ah, the
> key order is stable in the face of insertions, unlike a regular dict".
> Nor can I at the moment think of an alternative explanation of what a
> "StableDict" might be.
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Luis Saavedra wrote:
> how to fix this problem?, on another machine I don't have this problem...,
Which machines does it work/fail on?
I probably can't help you, but maybe that will help someone else figure it out.
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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull
wrote:
> Overall, I recommend use of Google Docs for "Python-Ideas" level of
> PEP drafts.
+1! I also like Google Sites for collaborative editing.
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Mitchell L Model wrote:
> I'd appreciate comments -- especially a redirection to a different list, if
> this one isn't appropriate for my query.
It seems as though you have the right list, but perhaps whoever knows
about the change is busy, or maybe several peopl
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Also it sounds like they could do with a really good
> garbage collection algorithm just now.
If only we had a second Earth to mess with, we could just copy and swap.
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Calvin Spealman wrote:
> I am just replying to the end of this thread to throw in a reminder
> about my partial.skip patch, which allows the following usage:
>
> split_one = partial(str.split, partial.skip, 1)
>
> Not looking to say "mine is better", but if the ide
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Ben North wrote:
> I find 'functools.partial' useful, but occasionally I'm unable to use it
> because it lacks a 'from the right' version. E.g., to create a function
> which splits a string on commas, you can't say
First of all, many functions like this are easy
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
> Ubuntu is a victim of its own success. They now have to deal with the
> same diversity of hardware environments as Windows. I hope that
> Canonical will find a way to stabilize things.
I think it's actually worse. Microsoft can always (and, i
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, wrote:
> Hmmm, OK... Why do we need two ways to spell "don't use gcc"?
Think of it like the two keys to the atom bomb. :-P
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I missed the beginning here; oh well.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Aahz wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> Steve Holden writes:
>>>
>>> Hey, isn't Ubuntu Debian-based? ...
>>
>> Ouch. I don't actually use Ubuntu, but when everybody on my local LUG
>> list from the "L
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Tim Peters wrote:
> [Lots of answers]
Thanks. Wish I could have offered something useful.
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:26 PM, wrote:
> Because useful side effects are sometimes performed as a result of this
> activity (flushing disk buffers, closing database connections, etc).
Of course they are. But what about the case given above:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:55
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:04 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> These long exit times are usually caused by the garbage collection
> of objects. This can be a very time consuming task.
In that case, the question would be "why is the interpreter collecting
garbage when it knows we're trying to exit anyway
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Koenig, Gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a while back there was a discussion about new operators for the language,
> which
> ended in people mentioning that the status of PEP 225 was still undecided and
> that it was the most likely route to consider in this dis
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can represent Mercurial, though it may be (more?) helpful if some of the
> Mercurial-using python-dev regulars can occasionally step in.
I like mercurial, so I'll do this if I see something, but I don't use
it for anyth
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:26 PM, L V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why don't range and xrange threat floats as floats?
> Is there any good reason range and xrange don't threat floats as floats but
> as integers?
> When I enter float arguments in a range, the floats are treated as integers.
> (+ some
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:07 PM, VanL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just an FYI, these two particular students already introduced themselves
> on the PyPy list. Paolo is a masters student with experience in the
> Linux kernel; Sigurd is a PhD candidate.
>
> Their professor is Lars Bak, the lead arch
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer!
> I don't buy the argument that newlines automagically improves readability
> though. You also get increased nesting suggesting something interesting is
> happening where it isn't and that hurts re
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With that out of the way, on to todays subject:
> I use list comprehensions and generator expressions a lot and lately I've
> found myself writing a lot of code like this:
>
> for i in items if i.some_field == some_value:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ Don't you mean "min()"? Unimportant. ]
Haha, that's what I get for not actually _running_ the code example.
> I see the convenience here, but doubt I'd ever do that myself.
> I'd write the above like this:
>
> while
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Leaving aside the 0.2 => 0 converstion, shouldn't read() raise an
> exception if asked for < 1 bytes? Or is there a legitimate use for
> read(0) with which I was not previously aware?
I think read(0) should be a no-op, just like it is in libc. This le
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> I'd prefer to see a proper PEP for this proposing a new slot that lets any
> class return an (integer_part, fraction_part) tuple of integers, and
> have PyNumber_ToBase take care of the actual string formatting.
I take issue only with your notion of retu
There is a typo on the download page (http://python.org/download/releases/3.0/):
"""The release plan is to have a series of alpha releases in 2007,
beta releases in 2008, and a final release in September 2008. The
alpha releases are primarily aimed at developers who want a sneak peek
at the new la
There is a typo on the download page (http://python.org/download/releases/3.0/):
"""The release plan is to have a series of alpha releases in 2007,
beta releases in 2008, and a final release in September 2008. The
alpha releases are primarily aimed at developers who want a sneak peek
at the new la
If you can get me a version of the interpreter with this change made
(I wouldn't know what to change), I can run a very
allocation/deallocation-heavy application I have lying around, and get
you some good benchmarks.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:23 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- S
-1 to this 'on' statement.
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It isn't that a Pascal-with-style statement can't be achieved, it's that it
> is pointless syntactic sugar in Python. Just use o =
> long_complicated_object_name instead.
+1 to this reason.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That makes about as much sense as wanting to support a.42 = b since
> a[42] = b works. :-)
Well don't I feel silly now.
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I haven't been following this thread very closely, so I'm not sure
what the status is, but I'd just like to point out that yesterday I
used the fact that a[None] = b works, when I used the @memoize
decorator from the wiki. This seems to provide an argument that, for
symmetry's sake, we might want
On Thu, 22 May 2008, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> > I would say that writing portable C code is hard as well, aren't there
> > just more tools that help?
>
> The C compiler in particular. It already gets symbolic constants and
> struct layouts right, something that ctypes can't do (because it doesn't
On Tue, 20 May 2008, Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:
> I've just found a strange re behavior:
>
> >>> import re
> >>> re.sub("(?:ab|b|a)", "+", "cbacbabcabc")
> 'c++c++c+c'
> >>> re.sub("(?:ab|b|a){2}", "+", "cbacbabcabc")
> 'c+c+c+c'
>
> In the last case |-separated expressions seems don't tried from left
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Bill Janssen wrote:
> > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> If you can run a pure Python module
> > >> that does not depend on any C extension, then that platform has the
> > >> support needed to run Python.
> > >
> > > This is certai
On Sat, 3 May 2008, Brett Cannon wrote:
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Terry Reedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Some people write
> > somename = lambda args: expression
> > instead of the more obvious (to most people) and, dare I say, standard
> > def somename(args): return expression
On Thu, 1 May 2008, Neal Becker wrote:
> It would be really nice to see support for some other backends, such as Hg
> or bzr (which are both written in python), in addition to svn.
/me starts the clamour for git
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This strikes me as a gratuitous API change of the kind Guido was
> > warning about in his recent post: "Don't change your APIs incompatibly
> > when porting to Py3k"
>
> This seems compelling to me. And as Glyph mentio
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) I am willing to type in the password, which is obvious to anyone who
> can read a simple script. That just doesn't work for a program you want
> to run in the background to type it in every time.
I recommend you just ha
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to run a program within a bash script, essentially daemonize a
> program that doesn't have a daemon mode.
>
> #!/bin/sh
>
> echo "What Is Your Passsword: "
> stty_orig=`stty -g`
> stty -echo
> read -r PASSWORD
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the -p option is not good on multi user systems
> the -p option is not particularly good on NFS based systems
> (have to trust every user on every machine with access to NFS share)
You seem somehow both worried about
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [please cc me on responses]
>
> I was wondering if getpass could be changed to enable piped stdin to work.
>
> For instance, the getmail program can read my email password in via
> stdin using getpass functionality.
>
>
On Jan 25, 2008 12:45 PM, Facundo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mmm... no. int() is a builtin way to transform the builtin data type
> float into the builtin data type float [sic].
>
> There's no "correct" way for a float to become an integer, but in the
> math module you have several ways t
On 1/20/08, Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Both of these are likely to be of limited use. The most common usage I
> know of is to make a "sensible" rational from a float (i.e., a DWIM
> style conversion 0.1 -> 1/10) or to provide readable output. On the
> other hand, both are subtle to imp
On Jan 14, 2008 6:41 PM, Jon Ribbens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It makes sense, but personally I have never heard before of ~/.local.
> Whereas ~/bin is something I am quite familiar with.
*raises hand* I have one, fwiw.
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On Jan 13, 2008 7:26 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guido mentioned the possibility briefly at
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-3000/2007-April/007015.html
> ("One could argue that float and Decimal are <:Q, but I'm not sure if
> that makes things better pragmatically") b
On Jan 13, 2008 6:12 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2008 8:21 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2008 5:09 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > During the discussion about the new Rational implementation
> > > (http://bugs
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