[Python-Dev] Re: Switching to Discourse

On Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 19:33 Steven Barker wrote: > So to give my final takeaway: It might be possible for Discourse to > replace Python-dev, even for those who wish to get their messages by email. > But the user experience of signing up is vastly worse, and will need much > more than a single

[Python-Dev] Re: New PEP website is horrible to read on mobile device

On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 1:31 PM Nathan Cook wrote: > Please make https://peps.python.org/ more responsive to various form factors > > See attached screenshot from Chrome version 99.0.4844.58 on my Pixel 3aXL > running Android 12 I can't reproduce this without zooming in. If you're still

[Python-Dev] Re: issues-test-2 spam?

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 11:29 AM Matti Picus wrote: > You may want to try the experiments in a private repo under your username > rather than under the python organization. I think this will prevent anyone > except you from getting notified. You could even go further and set up a > dummy

[Python-Dev] Re: Please do not remove random bits of information from the tutorial

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 1:29 PM Raymond Hettinger wrote: > * FWIW, I've closely monitored the bug tracker daily for almost two decades. > We almost never get a user complaint that the tutorial is too advanced. For > the most part, it has long been of good service to users. Almost certainly >

[Python-Dev] Re: Pull Request bpo-1812

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 9:36 AM Peter Donis wrote: > Is there any update on this? I have put the setup/teardown code in a context > manager as Zach recommended. The setup/teardown code covers everything that > could possibly be mutated by the test. It's probably not the most elegant way > to

[Python-Dev] Re: Pull Request bpo-1812

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:59 PM Guido van Rossum wrote: > The Pull Request title is "Fix newline conversion when doctest.testfile loads > from a package whose loader has a get_data method", it looks relatively > straightforward and thorough. I've submitted a review; the actual code change is

[Python-Dev] buildbot.python.org database reset

Hi all, The database backing buildbot.python.org has been reset in order to clean out old workers and builders, and to allow some relationships to be created properly to allow future cleanups without resetting everything. This does unfortunately mean that old links are going to be broken,

[Python-Dev] Re: The Python 2 death march

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 1:58 PM Ethan Furman wrote: > Will there be a time delay between the final tagging and the deletion so any > who would like the repo in its final state can clone it at that point? No need; you can try this with any currently closed branch like 3.3: `git checkout -B 3.3

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding test.support.safe_rmpath()

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:44 AM Steve Dower wrote: > That said, I'd love to have a context manager that we can use to make > this easier. Really, none of us should be having to decide "how am I > going to use a temporary location on the file system in my test", > because we should have one

Re: [Python-Dev] CPython on Windows ARM32

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 7:37 PM Steve Dower wrote: > I also haven't reviewed the changes yet, but provided nobody is strongly > opposed to taking on a supported platform (without additional releases > on python.org), I expect I'll do a big part of the reviewing then. I'm all for the first two

Re: [Python-Dev] About multiprocessing maintainership

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:39 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > What I did (*) is different: I asked to mark Davin inactive and to stop > auto-assigning him on bug tracker issues. Davin was /still/ listed in > the experts list, along with me and others. IOW, there was no "editing > out".

Re: [Python-Dev] I reverted "Add Windows App Store package" change

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:17 AM Steve Dower wrote: > Also for not submitting custom builds to all the buildbots (Can we still do > that? I'm not seeing any UI right now... I did run a number of test > release builds on the release machine, so I knew that was going to be okay.) The UX is not

Re: [Python-Dev] wininst-*.exe files in Lib/distutils/command

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:09 AM VanL wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking into an issue associated with the wininst-*.exe files in the > distutils/command subdirectory. It looks like these are the executable stubs > used to create self-extracting zips for installation - but I am not 100% > sure.

Re: [Python-Dev] Stop automerging

It is still up to the core dev to set the message properly, but the HTML comments are invisible on GitHub until you edit the message. That bug is now fixed, though; HTML comments are stripped from the message before creating the commit. -- Zach (Top-posted in HTML from a phone) On Wed, Sep 12,

Re: [Python-Dev] Workflow blocked on the 3.6 because of AppVeyor; who owns the AppVeyor project?

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:30 AM Paul Moore wrote: > I presume you're suggesting keeping 2017 is so that we don't have > stray 2015-built artifacts in the cache, which makes sense to me, and > I have a mild preference for keeping the latest compiler, as that's > likely the one that people will find

Re: [Python-Dev] Workflow blocked on the 3.6 because of AppVeyor; who owns the AppVeyor project?

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:23 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 11:03:48 +0100 > Paul Moore wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 10:55, Victor Stinner wrote: > > > Who ows the "python" AppVeyor project? That seems to have fallen to me for the most part. > > > Can someone please give me

Re: [Python-Dev] We now have C code coverage!

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Rechecking now, on Gentoo > > test_idle appears and passed on these 3.6 and 3.7 pages > http://buildbot.python.org/all/#/builders/82/builds/414/steps/5/logs/stdio > > Neither Firefox nor Edge can find 'test_idle' on these 3.x pages >

Re: [Python-Dev] We now have C code coverage!

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > I have suggested that, and before that, the same for buildbots. The reality > is that tkinter, IDLE, or turtle could be disabled on *nix by regressions > and the official testing would not notice. I'm looking into enabling the GUI tests on

Re: [Python-Dev] Keeping an eye on Travis CI, AppVeyor and buildbots: revert on regression

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:45 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: > Are there APIs we can use to check the status of builbots? > Maybe we can have the our bots check for the buildbot status in backport > PRs. There is a REST API for buildbot; I have no idea how usable/useful it is though (but I think the

Re: [Python-Dev] please help triage VSTS failures

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > These both look like VSTS infrastructure falling over on PRs: > > https://python.visualstudio.com/cpython/_build?buildId=522 > > https://python.visualstudio.com/cpython/_build?buildId=523 > > I don't see anywhere that

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows 10 build agent failures

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Paul Goins wrote: > Hi, > > Just kind of "looking around" at stuff I can help with, and I noticed a few > days ago that Windows 10 AMD64 builds of Python 3.6/3.7/3.x are generally > failing. > > It seems like the failures started April 16th

Re: [Python-Dev] Basic test to validate win10 install?

Hi Martin, On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Martin Gainty wrote: > I was told the python -m test are for devs only to test "auxiliary > functions" > do you have a "basic test" i can use to validate Python36 has installed > properly on Win10? The fact that the tests run at

Re: [Python-Dev] Is 4.0 a major breaking changes release?

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Alex Walters wrote: > I am still working on porting code from 2.x to 3.x. As of late on the lists > I've seen comments about making somewhat major changes in 4.0 - now I'm > concerned that I should pause my porting effort until that is

Re: [Python-Dev] GH-NNNN vs #NNNN in merge commit

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote: >> Of course, we would still need to convince people to install it :) > > > Right, that's the challenge :) > I personally use Chrome (!) and I've been using your Chrome extension, so > thank you! > However, I

Re: [Python-Dev] Clarifying Cygwin support in CPython

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > a platform--in particular it's not clear when a buildbot is considered > "stable", or how to achieve that without getting necessary fixes > merged into the main branch in the first place. I think in this context, "stable"

Re: [Python-Dev] [RFC] Removing pure Python implementation of OrderedDict

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Eric Snow wrote: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:38 AM, INADA Naoki wrote: >> Like that, how about removing OrderedDict Pure Python implementation >> from stdlib and require it to implementation? > > -1 > > Like

Re: [Python-Dev] New work-in-progress bisection tool for the Python test suite (in regrtest)

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:52 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Are you testing for refleaks with gui enabled? Yes; the refleak builders are running on my Gentoo and Windows workers, both of which (should have, at least) GUI available and enabled. However, I have caught Xvfb not

Re: [Python-Dev] Appveyor builds fail on Windows for 3.6 backports.

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Example: appveyor passes for > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/2335#discussion_r123724857 > > Appveyor build fails for 3.6 backport > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/2359 >

Re: [Python-Dev] Remove embedded expat library?

s repository. I would be fine with switching to `--with-system-expat=yes` by default and building from externals on Windows in 3.7, and removing the bundled expat in 3.8. >> By the way, Zachary Ware is working on converting this repository to >> Git. I don't know his progress: >> -

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of Python buildbots

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Erik Bray wrote: > I have been saying for several months now that I would like to set up > a Cygwin buildbot--an important step in making that platform > supportable again. I now have the infrastructure available to do so > (Windows VM on an

Re: [Python-Dev] Update on labels to be used on GitHub

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 at 14:43 Victor Stinner > wrote: >> >> 2017-02-13 21:08 GMT+01:00 Brett Cannon : >> > We now have two sets of labels for representing cherry-picking statuses:

Re: [Python-Dev] adding threaded tests to the test suite

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Martin Panter wrote: > As I understand, @reap_threads basically does a join() on each > background thread, with a total timeout of 1 s. So since your test is > unlikely to fail between starting threads and joining them, I don’t > think you

Re: [Python-Dev] adding threaded tests to the test suite

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > Question: I need to add a threaded test to the enum test module [1] -- is > there anything extra I > need to worry about besides the test itself? Setting or resetting or using > a tool library, etc? As far as I know,

Re: [Python-Dev] Would someone please update the profile-opt buildbot flag settings?

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > For http://buildbot.python.org/all/buildslaves/gps-debian-profile-opt in > particular (and any others we have using it - if any): Our new > --with-optimizations configure flag has been renamed to > --enable-optimizations

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.6 branch in Mercurial?

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > I need to do a little 2.6 spelunking. I don't see a 2.6 branch in the output > of "hg branches". Is "hg clone v2.6.9" the proper incantation to get the > latest version (or perhaps "v2.6")? 2.6 is a closed branch,

Re: [Python-Dev] Have I got my hg dependencies correct?

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Victor Stinner > wrote: >> >> Are you on the 2.7 branch or the default branch? >> >> You might try to cleanup your checkout: >> >> hg up -C -r 2.7 >>

Re: [Python-Dev] Needs to install python 3.4.4 in RHEL 6

Hi Nilesh, On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Nilesh Date wrote: > Hi team, > > I wanted to install python version 3.4.4 in my RHEL 6 system. > Can someone give installation process or any reference link from which I can > get required steps and download desire package.

Re: [Python-Dev] Terminal console

On Apr 26, 2016 07:45, "Franklin? Lee" wrote: > > On Apr 26, 2016 4:02 AM, "Paul Moore" wrote: > > > > On 25 April 2016 at 23:55, Franklin? Lee wrote: > > > FWIW, Gmail's policies require: > > [...] > > > That

Re: [Python-Dev] Terminal console

On Apr 25, 2016 17:08, "Brett Cannon" wrote: > > Good point. Hopefully that's all it was then. Is there any particular reason we include that link in python-dev emails? We don't for any other list as far as I know. -- Zach (On a phone)

[Python-Dev] Tag-based buildmaster (was: Most 3.x buildbots are green again ... )

(Cross-posting to python-buildbots, discussion is probably best continued there) On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 at 13:17 Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> After receiving a suggestion f

Re: [Python-Dev] Most 3.x buildbots are green again, please don't break them and watch them!

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Last months, most 3.x buildbots failed randomly. Some of them were > always failing. I spent some time to fix almost all Windows and Linux > buildbots. There were a lot of different issues. Thank you for

Re: [Python-Dev] Pathlib enhancements - acceptable inputs and outputs for __fspath__ and os.fspath()

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > If those examples are anywhere close to accurate, an fspath protocol that > supported both bytes and str seems a lot easier to work with. But why are you working with bytes paths in the first place? Where did you get

Re: [Python-Dev] When should pathlib stop being provisional?

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:50 AM, Michel Desmoulin wrote: > Path objects don't have splitext() or and don't allow "string" / path. > Those are the ones bugging me the most. >>> import pathlib >>> p = '/some/test' / pathlib.Path('path') / 'file_with.ext' >>> p

Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Yury Selivanov wrote: > Zachary, > > Do you run the benchmarks in rigorous mode? Not currently. I think I need to reschedule when the benchmarks are run anyway, to avoid conflicts with PyPy's usage of that box, and will add rigorous mode

[Python-Dev] speed.python.org

I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional! There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my part), but it's there. There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out. When

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot timing out - test suite failure - test_socket issue with UDP6?

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > By the way, this looks odd: > > make buildbottest TESTOPTS= TESTPYTHONOPTS= TESTTIMEOUT=3600 > in dir /root/buildarea/3.x.angelico-debian-amd64/build (timeout 3900 secs) > > The parameter says 3600 (which corresponds to

Re: [Python-Dev] Update PEP 7 to require curly braces in C

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Brett Cannon wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 at 23:07 Nick Coghlan wrote: >> - I wasn't aware of that >> requirement, so I've never explicitly checked CLA status for folks >> contributing packaging related PEPs. (And looking at

Re: [Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Monday, November 16, 2015, Brett Cannon wrote: >>> >>> Hi Brett >>> >>> Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of >>> {cpython,pypy,pyston} introduced new benchmarks to the set). >>

Re: [Python-Dev] doc tests failing

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > What am I doing wrong? Expecting it to work :) `make doctest` is a Sphinx feature, not specific to our docs. Ideally someday it should work (and I'll add it to the Docs buildbot), but nobody has tried to make it work

Re: [Python-Dev] Rationale behind lazy map/filter

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Random832 wrote: > "R. David Murray" writes: > >> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:59:56 +0300, Stefan Mihaila >> wrote: >>> Maybe it's just python2 habits, but I assume I'm not the only one >>>

Re: [Python-Dev] Request a builedbot username and password

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Zhuo Chen wrote: > Hi I am interested in setting up a builedbot machine for python, I have a > 2011 MacBook Pro with custom ssd and OS X Yosemite Responding off-list. -- Zach ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Testing tkinter on Linux

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 5:00 AM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: I believe gui depends on the existence of the DISPLAY environment variable on unix/linux (that is, TK will fail to start if DISPLAY is not

Re: [Python-Dev] Differences between Python's OpenSSL in SVN and OpenSSL's in GitHub

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Guzman-ballen, Andres andres.guzman-bal...@intel.com wrote: Hello Python Developers! Why is it that the OpenSSL v1.0.2d that is found on Python’s SVN repo is quite different from what OpenSSL has on their GitHub repository for OpenSSL v1.0.2d? The reason for

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues not responded to.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: Best thing I can think of is to post the Roundup search you did to find those 400 so thoseof us who can help can just start whittling them away. You could also share it with core-mentorship and explain we need help evaluating

Re: [Python-Dev] Building python 2.7.10 for Windows from source

On Jul 24, 2015 8:30 AM, Mark Kelley keee...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using Python for some time but it's been a decade since I've tried to build it from source, back in the 2.4 days. Things seem to have gotten a little more complicated now. I've read through the PCBuild/README file and

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Tighten-up code in the set iterator to use an entry pointer rather than

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: On 07/07/2015 08:15 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote: This will make harder to notice (and fix!) other regressions. I don't understand what you are trying to say. If a bug is worth fixing, it's worth having a test so we don't

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Tighten-up code in the set iterator to use an entry pointer rather than

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: The test could be marked as an expected failure in the interim somitnisnt forgotten. True, but in this case things would be a bit more difficult since the testcase segfaults rather than just throwing an exception. -- Zach

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:54 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: On 22.06.2015 19:03, Zachary Ware wrote: Using the backported project files to build 2.7 would require two versions of Visual Studio to be installed; VS2010 (or newer) would be required in addition to VS2008. All Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:48 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: On 25.06.2015 17:12, Zachary Ware wrote: The old files are moved to PC/VS9.0, and they work as expected as far as I've tested them. So it's still possible to build with just VS 2008 installed or will the VS 2010 (or later

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: This also makes it more viable to use the Windows SDK compilers. If you install the Windows SDK 7.0 (which includes MSVC9) and Windows SDK 7.1 (which includes the platform toolset files for MSVC9 - toolsets were

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Jun 23, 2015, at 06:27, Christian Tismer tis...@stackless.com wrote: On 23.06.15 06:42, Zachary Ware wrote: Christian, what say you? Would having the project files from 3.5 backported to 2.7 (but still using MSVC 9) be positive, negative, or indifferent for Stackless? I am very positive

[Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

Hi, As you may know, Steve Dower put significant effort into rewriting the project files used by the Windows build as part of moving to VC14 as the official compiler for Python 3.5. Compared to the project files for 3.4 (and older), the new project files are smaller, cleaner, simpler, more

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: I'd like to backport those new project files to 2.7, Would this change anything about how extensions are built? There is now the ms compiler for 2.7 would that work? Or only in concert with VS2010

Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org (was: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: OK, so what you are saying is that speed.python.org will run a buildbot slave so that when a change is committed to cPython, a speed run will

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I'd suggest explicitly reaching out to the Stackless folks to get their feedback. As I believe the switched to a newer compiler and VC runtime for Windows a while back, I suspect it will make their lives easier rather

Re: [Python-Dev] Backporting the 3.5+ Windows build project files to 2.7

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Zachary Ware wrote: With the stipulation that the officially supported compiler won't change, I want to make sure there's no major opposition to replacing the old project files in PCbuild. The old files would

Re: [Python-Dev] Can someone configure the buildbots to build the 3.5 branch?

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: The buildbots currently live in a state of denial about the 3.5 branch. Could someone whisper tenderly in their collective shell-like ears so that they start building 3.5, in addition to 3.4 and trunk? The 3.5 branch

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Issue #20172: Convert the winsound module to Argument Clinic.

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Serhiy Storchaka storch...@gmail.com wrote: On 13.05.15 09:32, zach.ware wrote: https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d3582826d24c changeset: 96006:d3582826d24c user:Zachary Ware zachary.w...@gmail.com date:Wed May 13 01:21:21 2015 -0500

Re: [Python-Dev] Repository builds as 2.7.8+

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Python 2.7.8+ (default, May 13 2015, 16:46:29) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Shouldn't this be 2.7.9+ or 2.7.10rc1? Make sure your repository is up to date, the patchlevel is correct at the current tip of the 2.7

Re: [Python-Dev] Keyword-only parameters

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:40:40PM -0400, Eric V. Smith wrote: But, I don't see a lot of keyword-only parameters being added to stdlib code. Is there some position we've taken on this? Barring someone saying stdlib

[Python-Dev] Python3 Stable ABI

In issue23903, I've created a script that will produce PC/python3.def by scraping the header files in Include. There are are many many discrepencies between what my script generates and what is currently in the repository (diff below), but in every case I've checked the script has been right:

Re: [Python-Dev] version of freshly built 2.7 python

On Thursday, April 2, 2015, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine -- or so I thought. When I invoke it, I get: Python 2.7.6+ (2.7:1beb3e0507fa, Apr 2 2015, 17:57:53) Why am I not seeing 2.7.9?

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Check deques against common sequence tests (except for slicing).

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:11 AM, raymond.hettinger python-check...@python.org wrote: https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/393189326adb changeset: 95350:393189326adb user:Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com date:Wed Apr 01 08:11:09 2015 -0700 summary: Check deques against common

Re: [Python-Dev] libffi embedded in CPython

On Mar 25, 2015 4:22 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2015 at 09:09, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: I'm not sure we guarantee anything. In any case, it's only a small proportion of the kind of crashes you can get by messing the signature. Fair point. I guess

Re: [Python-Dev] libffi embedded in CPython

On Mar 25, 2015 9:28 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 March 2015 at 01:57, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Zachary Ware wrote: On Mar 25, 2015 4:22 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On a related note, is there any information available on how

Re: [Python-Dev] libffi embedded in CPython

I started this message about 3 months ago; at this point I'm just getting it posted so it stops rotting in my Drafts folder. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Jim J. Jewett jimjjew...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014, at 14:13, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: ... http://bugs.python.org/issue23085

Re: [Python-Dev] libffi embedded in CPython

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be willing to contemplate helping out on the Windows side of things, if nobody else steps up (with the proviso that I have little free time, and I'm saying this without much idea of what's involved :-)) If Zachary can

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4 RPM on AIX

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Blaxton blaxx...@yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid wrote: I am using the spec file that comes with Python source code which downloaded from python.org website source file is set on spec file to file with bz2 format while there is only .xz and zipped are available to

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on Windows - importlib.h changed

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on a patch for the Python launcher. I built Python (current tip, on MS Windows, with VS 2015), and I've just noticed that hg status shows: hg status -mard M Doc\using\windows.rst M PC\launcher.c M

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on Windows - importlib.h changed

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Eric Snow ericsnowcurren...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, importlib.h changes should never be included in a patch (it would Unless they should. :) E.g. you modified importlib

Re: [Python-Dev] Pydoc Replacement for Python's help()?

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Cyd Haselton chasel...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've finally managed to build a (somewhat) working Python port for the Android tablet I'm using. Unfortunately, as I quickly found out, Python's built-in help function requires tkinter, which requires tcl/tk.

Re: [Python-Dev] Can Python Be Built Without Distutils

On Saturday, January 24, 2015, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 5:45:28 PM Gregory P. Smith g...@krypto.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','g...@krypto.org'); wrote: On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 11:20:02 AM M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I installed the SP1 for Visual Studio 2010, and it looks like that it broke my Windows SDK 7.1 (setenv was missing, cl.exe was also missing). I uninstalled the SDK 7.1, and then I saw that a patch is required

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the Developer Guide: https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling Python 3.5 now requires Visual Studio 2010 *SP1*, or newer

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: Quick Start Guide - 1. Install Microsoft Visual Studio 2015, any edition. Note that this isn't precisely true; any VS 2010 SP1 or newer *should* work, as you already know :). This just says

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Ray Donnelly mingw.andr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 19:24:38 -0400 R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: I know I for one do not generally test patches on Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 6:24 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: Note: it can be made even less compelling by making it a lot easier to build CPython on Windows without having an MSVC license (which I think means not using the GUI, for which I say *yay* :). I think Zach Ware has

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing 2.7.x

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote: 3. security: fixing issues exploitable by attackers such as crashes, privilege escalation and, optionally, other issues such as denial of service attacks. Any other changes are not considered a security risk and thus not backported

Re: [Python-Dev] Fixing 2.7.x

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Christian Tismer tis...@stackless.com wrote: My impression is that no 3.X user ever would want to stick with any older version. Is that true, or am I totally wrong? My impression is that you're mostly right, but only because those who would still be on 3.1 are

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] Daily reference leaks (09f56fdcacf1): sum=21004

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: test_codecs is not happy. Looking at the subject lines of commit emails from the past day I don't see any obvious cause. Looks like this was caused by the change I made to regrtest in [1] to fix refleak testing in

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] Daily reference leaks (09f56fdcacf1): sum=21004

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Brett Cannon bcan...@gmail.com wrote: test_codecs is not happy. Looking at the subject lines of commit emails from the past day I don't see any obvious cause. Looks like

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython: Issue #22003: When initialized from a bytes object, io.BytesIO() now

I'd like to point out a couple of compiler warnings on Windows: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:45 PM, antoine.pitrou python-check...@python.org wrote: diff --git a/Modules/_io/bytesio.c b/Modules/_io/bytesio.c --- a/Modules/_io/bytesio.c +++ b/Modules/_io/bytesio.c @@ -33,6 +37,45 @@

Re: [Python-Dev] Windows XP, Python 3.5 and PEP 11

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to know if Python 3.5 will still support Windows XP or not. Almost all flavors of Windows XP reached the end-of-life in April, 2014 except Windows XP Embedded. There is even an hack to use

Re: [Python-Dev] Returning Windows file attribute information via os.stat()

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: On 06/09/2014 09:02 PM, Ben Hoyt wrote: To solve this problem, what do people think about adding an st_winattrs attribute to the object returned by os.stat() on Windows? +1 to the idea, whatever the exact

Re: [Python-Dev] Returning Windows file attribute information via os.stat()

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Ben Hoyt benh...@gmail.com wrote: To solve this problem, what do people think about adding an st_winattrs attribute to the object returned by os.stat() on Windows? +1 to the idea, whatever the exact implementation. Cool. I think we should add a st_winattrs

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Thoughts/comments/concerns? My only concern is support for elderly versions of Windows, in particular: XP. I seem to recall the last let's update our MSVC version discussion dying off because of XP support. Even

Re: [Python-Dev] Tix version needed to build 2.7 Windows installer?

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: I updated the 2.7 buildbot scripts to pull in Tcl/Tk 8.5.15 a couple of weeks ago (see http://bugs.python.org/issue21303), but hadn't gotten anything done with Tix yet. It should just need python.mak updated

Re: [Python-Dev] Tix version needed to build 2.7 Windows installer?

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Am 08.05.14 18:59, schrieb Brian Curtin: This is mostly a question for Martin, but perhaps someone else would also know. I'm trying to build the 2.7 installers so I can backport the path option from 3.3, but I can't

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] devguide: Fix broken link to Skip's optimizer paper, update bug link

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:02 PM, zach.ware python-check...@python.org wrote: http://hg.python.org/devguide/rev/375b0b0b186b changeset: 696:375b0b0b186b user:Zachary Ware zachary.w...@gmail.com date:Fri May 02 14:44:20 2014 -0500 summary: Fix broken link to Skip's optimizer

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] cpython (3.4): Prevent Sphinx error on whatsnew/changelog

On April 23, 2014 5:24:53 PM CDT, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 4/23/2014 11:05 AM, zach.ware wrote: http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/75419257fec3 changeset: 90440:75419257fec3 branch: 3.4 parent: 90437:5d745d97b7da user:Zachary Ware zachary.w...@gmail.com date

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