Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I am accepting Todd Rovito's and Terry Reedy's PEP 434, officially declaring IDLE to be an application bundled with Python, with the contents of

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Simon Cross
Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to alternative Python implementations. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:33:38 +0200 Simon Cross hodgestar+python...@gmail.com wrote: Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to alternative Python implementations. Why? ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:33:38 +0200 Simon Cross hodgestar+python...@gmail.com wrote: Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to alternative Python implementations. Why? I don't think it's worth

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Daniel Holth
Yes, it would probably make more sense to split the editor and shell processes as many Python IDEs do, with IDLE running in CPython and the user's computation running in the chosen interpreter. On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread fwierzbi...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Cross hodgestar+python...@gmail.com wrote: Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to alternative Python implementations. I suspect it's too hard. I remember seeing some work on anygui.py that looked like an attempt to make these

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-30 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:36:39 -0700 fwierzbi...@gmail.com fwierzbi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Simon Cross hodgestar+python...@gmail.com wrote: Having a standalone version of IDLE might be really useful to alternative Python implementations. I suspect it's too

[Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Nick Coghlan
I am accepting Todd Rovito's and Terry Reedy's PEP 434, officially declaring IDLE to be an application bundled with Python, with the contents of Lib/idlelib exempt from the usual no new features in maintenance releases rule. As stated in the PEP, this isn't carte blanche to do major rewrites in

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I am accepting Todd Rovito's and Terry Reedy's PEP 434, officially declaring IDLE to be an application bundled with Python, with the contents of Lib/idlelib exempt from the usual no new features in maintenance releases

Re: [Python-Dev] Accepting PEP 434, Idle Enhancement Exception

2013-03-29 Thread Todd Rovito
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.comwrote: Does that mean that mainstream idle development should move out of the python tree? No the acceptance of PEP-434 does not mean IDLE development should move out of the python tree. The acceptance of PEP-434 means that