Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: The import of the Ghostscript case is that the FSF considers a Makefile stanza clearly intended to cause linkage to a GPL library, even if optional and supplied by the user, to create a work derived from that library. A GNU

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 21, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: In that case, what I think we ought to do is not add the DP paths (i.e. /opt/local) to setup.py specifically to get its readline, but instead to pick up any libraries that happen to be in DP in preference to those in OSX by default. If that

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Thomas Wouters
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 02:25:03PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Anthony It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect Anthony that a libreadline it finds is actually the crackful Anthony libedit and refuse to use it if so. FYI: Real libreadline is GPL, and rms made

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 16:25, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Unless rms has changed his position on this, or there has been relevant legislation or a court decision in the meantime, explicitly requiring or checking for real libreadline, even as a user option, risks rms's wrath. (Of course,

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Anthony == Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony Python's license is GPL-compatible, so this isn't an Anthony issue. I'm sorry, but you seem to misunderstand what GPL compatibility means. It is a _one-way_ street. A license is GPL-compatible if its terms permit the code it

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 1/17/06, Stephen J. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony == Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect Anthony that a libreadline it finds is actually the crackful Anthony libedit and refuse to use it if so.

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread skip
Anthony It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect that a Anthony libreadline it finds is actually the crackful libedit and Anthony refuse to use it if so. FYI: Real libreadline is GPL, ... Didn't Python's readline module work with libedit once upon a time? I

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 18, 2006, at 1:31 AM, Anthony Baxter wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2006 16:25, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Unless rms has changed his position on this, or there has been relevant legislation or a court decision in the meantime, explicitly requiring or checking for real libreadline,

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Aahz
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming. --GvR -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ 19. A language that doesn't affect the way you

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread James Y Knight
On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Aahz wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming. -- GvR Ya know, you don't *have* to use his software. For example, python could

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:47 PM, James Y Knight wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Aahz wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming. -- GvR Ya know, you don't

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-18 Thread Alex Martelli
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:47 PM, James Y Knight wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Aahz wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Can we just all agree that RMS is an asshole now? Bah. Citing RMS's insanity is a great way to get my blood steaming. -- GvR Ya know, you don't

[Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Thomas Heller
Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Thomas building 'readline' extension gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-long-double -no-cpp-precomp -mno-fused-madd -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I. -I/Users/theller/svn/trunk/./Include

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 17, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Thomas Heller wrote: Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing something wrong? Mac OS X doesn't ship with readline. It ships with BSD libedit symlinked to readline. Not good enough for Python. You need a third party copy. I

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing something wrong? There are definitely serious issues with readline on OS X 10.4. I've hit them too but haven't had time to post about it yet. I'm far from an expert

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Brett Cannon
On 1/17/06, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing something wrong? There are definitely serious issues with readline on OS X 10.4. I've hit them too but haven't

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Jan 17, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2006 06:19, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Heller wrote: Building the readline on OS X 10.4 fails, is this known, or am I doing something wrong? There are definitely serious issues

Re: [Python-Dev] Building on OS X 10.4 fails

2006-01-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Anthony == Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony It sounds like configure needs to grow a test to detect Anthony that a libreadline it finds is actually the crackful Anthony libedit and refuse to use it if so. FYI: Real libreadline is GPL, and rms made a point of forcing