Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread skip
Brett> While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to Brett> write), the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some Brett> discussion on naming and packaging in the stdlub. Perhaps it's Brett> time to start discussing the Great Library Reorganization that

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have a problem with reorganising the standard library, but > what's the motivation for moving everything under a new root? Is it > just to allow people to unambigiously get hold of something from the > stdlib, rather than following the normal sea

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/29/06, Brett Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/29/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > > > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpack

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Thursday 30 March 2006 10:31, Brett Cannon wrote: > > I don't have a problem with reorganising the standard library, > > but what's the motivation for moving everything under a new root? > > Is it just to allow people to unambigiously get hold of something > > from the stdlib, rather than follow

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 3/29/06, Anthony Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpackages within > > that. > > org.python.stdlib, surely? > > I

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Anthony Baxter
On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:39, Brett Cannon wrote: > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpackages within > that. org.python.stdlib, surely? I don't have a problem with reorganising the standard library, but

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Scott David Daniels
Brett Cannon wrote: > Here is a place I think we can take a queue from Java. I think we > should have a root package, 'py', and then have subpackages within > that At one point Tim Peters and I thought the right spot for python equivalents of C-coded modules belonged in package "py". Would '

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 3/29/06, Dennis Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not quite on the same topic, but perhaps it belong there. I think most of > use use both the stdlib and some selection of other libraries > (MySQL-Python, ReportLab Toolkit, PyChart, and PyXML, for example). These > libraries have to be ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Brett Cannon wrote: > > Wouldn't the newly founded python-3000 mailing list be the perfect place > > for such major changes? > > If you go back and look at Guido's Python 3000 Process email he said > that the change could occur in 2.6 and then be done for 3000. > Renaming modules is not that hard

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Dennis Allison
Not quite on the same topic, but perhaps it belong there. I think most of use use both the stdlib and some selection of other libraries (MySQL-Python, ReportLab Toolkit, PyChart, and PyXML, for example). These libraries have to be managed independently and installed independently. It would be n

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 3/29/06, Gerhard Häring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brett Cannon wrote: > > While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to write), > > the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some discussion on > > naming and packaging

Re: [Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Gerhard Häring
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brett Cannon wrote: > While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to write), > the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some discussion on > naming and packaging in the stdlub. Perhaps it's time to start > discussing the Great

[Python-Dev] Discussing the Great Library Reorganization

2006-03-29 Thread Brett Cannon
While this is going to require a PEP (which I am willing to write), the discussion of adding pysqlite has brought forth some discussion on naming and packaging in the stdlub. Perhaps it's time to start discussing the Great Library Reorganization that has been discussed for eons. Here is a place I