Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-11 Thread Demian Brecht
On 2013-03-11 5:44 AM, R. David Murray wrote: though some patience and persistence may be required. I have a wife and kids. This, I've become quite good at ;) Take a look at http://bugs.python.org/issue2193 (for example), and see if you still want to tackle this topic :) (I hope you do). E

Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:46:26 -0700, Demian Brecht wrote: > On 2013-03-10 1:59 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > I was hoping that there would be a little more interest (and potentially > some further historical context on why the module was implemented as it > was) from those in the group. It isn't

Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-10 Thread Demian Brecht
On 2013-03-10 2:36 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: A) For similar reasons, I consider the proposal a first draft, and probably not the exact right thing to do. That is correct. The more I think about it, the more I'm convincing myself that even though the proposal is more sane than what's there right

Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-10 Thread Demian Brecht
On 2013-03-10 1:59 PM, R. David Murray wrote: To be clear, just passing the stdlib tests is*not* sufficient to think that backward compatibility is not likely to be broken. Deciding about the likelihood of breakage is a hard problem, to which we generally employ gut-level heuristics:) (And cod

Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/10/2013 4:59 PM, R. David Murray wrote: To be clear, just passing the stdlib tests is *not* sufficient to think that backward compatibility is not likely to be broken. Deciding about the likelihood of breakage is a hard problem, to which we generally employ gut-level heuristics :) (And cod

Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-10 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:13:54 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On 02/03/13 02:43, Demian Brecht wrote: > > Cross-posting from python-ideas due to no response there. Perhaps it's > > due to a general lack of usage/caring for cookiejar, but figured > > /someone/'s got to have an opinion about my propo

Re: [Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 02/03/13 02:43, Demian Brecht wrote: Cross-posting from python-ideas due to no response there. Perhaps it's due to a general lack of usage/caring for cookiejar, but figured /someone/'s got to have an opinion about my proposal ;) Apparently not :-( TL;DR: CookieJar > FileCookieJar > *Cooki

[Python-Dev] FileCookieJars

2013-03-01 Thread Demian Brecht
Cross-posting from python-ideas due to no response there. Perhaps it's due to a general lack of usage/caring for cookiejar, but figured /someone/'s got to have an opinion about my proposal ;) Note that I've moved my discussion from bug 16942 to 16901 (http://bugs.python.org/issue16901) as they're