Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-11 Thread Brett Cannon
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 14:55, Daniel Stutzbach wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: >> >> IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings >> were >> made silent by default: it spews messages not only at developers, but also >> at >> users, who don

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote: > >> 2010/9/10 Fred Drake : >>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings were ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Sep 10, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote: > 2010/9/10 Fred Drake : >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: >>> IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings were >>> made silent by default: it spews messages not only at developers, but als

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Daniel Stutzbach
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings > were > made silent by default: it spews messages not only at developers, but also > at > users, who don't need it and probably are going to be quite confused by it, > a

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Ɓukasz Langa
Georg Brandl writes: > it prints a warning (...) at interpreter shutdown if gc.garbage is nonempty. > > IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings were > made silent by default > > Opinions? Agreed, this should be reverted for the reasons you give but DO LEAVE THIS

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Amaury Forgeot d'Arc
2010/9/10 Fred Drake : > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: >> IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings were >> made silent by default: it spews messages not only at developers, but also at >> users, who don't need it and probably are going to be qu

Re: [Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > IMO this runs contrary to the decision we made when DeprecationWarnings were > made silent by default: it spews messages not only at developers, but also at > users, who don't need it and probably are going to be quite confused by it, Agreed;

[Python-Dev] Garbage announcement printed on interpreter shutdown

2010-09-10 Thread Georg Brandl
Hey #python-dev, I'd like to ask your opinion on this change; I think it should be reverted or at least made silent by default. Basically, it prints a warning like gc: 2 uncollectable objects at shutdown: Use gc.set_debug(gc.DEBUG_UNCOLLECTABLE) to list them. at interpreter shut