Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Ziadé wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Kevin Teague wrote: > >> >> Tarek, was there any further discussion on "Requires" vs "install_requires" >> or any decisions made on what to do about this? >> >> (I've got a +1 ready for including

Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
PEP 345 introduces "Requires" and "Provides" wich are are implemented in Distutils and PyP, but are not widely used. 40 out of +4000 if I remember correctly. Martin will correct me here if I am wrong. Here are the actual numbers of packages that had a certain specifier in atleast one o

Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-28 Thread Jim Fulton
On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:25 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 03:06 PM 3/27/2009 -0500, Tarek Ziadé wrote: They both aim at the same goal besides a few differences, and they both rely on a new metadata introduced by setuptools, wich is. "install_requires". This new metadata extends the metadata. describ

Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-28 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Kevin Teague wrote: > > > Tarek, was there any further discussion on "Requires" vs "install_requires" > or any decisions made on what to do about this? > > (I've got a +1 ready for including 'install_requires' in the standard > package metadata and marking 'Requir

Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-27 Thread Kevin Teague
On Mar 27, 2009, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 03:06 PM 3/27/2009 -0500, Tarek Ziadé wrote: They both aim at the same goal besides a few differences, and they both rely on a new metadata introduced by setuptools, wich is. "install_requires". This new metadata extends the metadata. describ

Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-27 Thread P.J. Eby
At 03:06 PM 3/27/2009 -0500, Tarek Ziadé wrote: They both aim at the same goal besides a few differences, and they both rely on a new metadata introduced by setuptools, wich is. "install_requires". This new metadata extends the metadata. described in PEP 314 but is slightly different fro

Re: [Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-27 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2009/3/27 P.J. Eby : > Also, it's quite likely that platform-specific dependencies may exist as > well.  It might be possible to accommodate these things with a sufficiently > flexible format, but currently, the only way to handle them with > distutils/setuptools is in the setup script. > Yes, we

[Python-Dev] My summit notes (packaging)

2009-03-27 Thread Tarek Ziadé
Here's a wrapup of my notes for the Distutils part (with Jim's help). The PyPI part will come later. I have presented the various problems developers have with packaging today, wether they are using Distutils, Setuptools or any other third party tools out there. Here's the short-list: - Distutil