On 06/09/2013 10:13 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org
mailto:gu...@python.org wrote:
I'm slow at warming up to the idea. My main concern is speed -- since
most code doesn't need it and function calls are already slow
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
I'm slow at warming up to the idea. My main concern is speed -- since
most code doesn't need it and function calls are already slow (and
obviously very common :-) it would be a shame if this slowed down
function calls
Hi all,
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that raymonds proposal would make dicts and ordereddicts almost
exactly the same speed.
Just checking: in view of Raymond's proposal, is there a good reason
against having all dicts be systematically
On May 20, 2013, at 02:30 PM, Armin Rigo wrote:
Just checking: in view of Raymond's proposal, is there a good reason
against having all dicts be systematically ordered? It would
definitely improve the debugging experience, by making multiple runs
of the same program more like each other,
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
Or in other words, if dicts are to be ordered, let's make it an explicit
language feature that we can measure compliance against.
Guaranteeing a dict order would be tough on Jython - today it's nice
that we can just have a
I think that kills the let's make all dicts ordered idea, even for
CPython. I wouldn't want people to start relying on this. The dict type
should be clearly recognizable as the hash table it is.
Making **kwds ordered is still open, but requires careful design and
implementation to avoid slowing
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Greg Ewing
greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
Actually, when I was thinking on the subject I came to the same idea, of
having
some functions marked differently so they would use a different call
mechanism -
but them I wondered around
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, I'm +1 on the idea for ordering keyword-args. It makes
it easier to debug if the arguments show-up in the order they
were created. AFAICT, no purpose is served by scrambling them
(which is
On Sat, 18 May 2013 22:47:35 -0700
Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, I'm +1 on the idea for ordering keyword-args. It makes
it easier to debug if the arguments show-up in the order they
were
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
The main use case seems to be the OrderedDict constructor itself.
Otherwise, I can't think of any situation where I would've wanted it.
I've had a couple related to populating other mappings where order
matters, at
Hm. Wouldn'tvevery call site be slowed down by checking for that flag?
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On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
The main use case seems to be the OrderedDict
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
The main use case seems to be the OrderedDict constructor itself.
Otherwise, I can't think of any situation where I would've wanted it.
I've had
On 19 May 2013 11:57, Guido van Rossum gvanros...@gmail.com wrote:
Hm. Wouldn'tvevery call site be slowed down by checking for that flag?
Actually, when I was thinking on the subject I came to the same idea, of having
some functions marked differently so they would use a different call mechanism
On 20 May 2013 00:57, Guido van Rossum gvanros...@gmail.com wrote:
Hm. Wouldn'tvevery call site be slowed down by checking for that flag?
Yeah, I forgot about having to push everything through the tp_call slot, so
we can't easily limit the ordering check to just those cases where the
callable
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
Actually, when I was thinking on the subject I came to the same idea, of having
some functions marked differently so they would use a different call mechanism -
but them I wondered around having a different opcode for the ordered-dict calls.
Would that be feasible?
No,
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Raymond Hettinger
raymond.hettin...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, I'm +1 on the idea for ordering keyword-args. It makes
it easier to debug if the arguments show-up in the order they
were created. AFAICT, no purpose is served by scrambling them
(which is exacerbated
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