Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Peter Moody peter at hda3.com writes: I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, If what the community requires is the library you've described, then ipaddr is not that library. The changes *you*

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Peter Moody
[cc += david moss] On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Peter Moody peter at hda3.com writes: I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, If what the community

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Guido van Rossum guido at python.org writes: At the same time I don't think a complete reset of the proposed API is necessary. I am rather more thinking of judicious API tweaks in order to cover some new use cases, without requiring a complete rewrite or destroying the usability of the

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:39:06 am Guido van Rossum wrote: I think Peter is pretty frustrated by the many attacks on his library. There are probably a number of different things going on simultaneous: Peter has been driven into the defense by attacks both reasonable and unreasonable, there have

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread DrKJam
2009/9/28 Peter Moody pe...@hda3.com [cc += david moss] On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Peter Moody peter at hda3.com writes: I've never said otherwise. In fact, from

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Guido van Rossum guido at python.org writes: At the same time I don't think a complete reset of the proposed API is necessary.  I am rather more thinking of judicious API tweaks in order to cover some new use cases,

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-28 Thread Andrew McNamara
I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, If what the community requires is the library you've described, then ipaddr is not that library. The changes *you* require make ipaddr significantly less useful to me. I'm not prepared to make those changes in an attempt seek acceptance

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Peter Moody peter at hda3.com writes: this is less useful (strictly removing functionality) and is an example of what I explicitly said I was not going to do with ipaddr. (please note the conditional wording here) Assuming that a significant number of people agree that there is a design

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 3144 review, and the inclusion process

2009-09-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Peter Moody peter at hda3.com writes: I've never said otherwise. In fact, from an email last night, If what the community requires is the library you've described, then ipaddr is not that library. The changes *you* require make ipaddr significantly less useful to me. I'm not prepared to make