Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-03-04 Thread Greg Ewing
Bugbee, Larry wrote: > Is there a reason why Python.exe cannot be built using gcc instead > of Visual Studio? > > It seems building everything with gcc would get around the problem > of having to match VS versions. As I understand it, the problem isn't the compiler so much as the stdio library

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Heimes
Martin v. Löwis wrote: >> The Windows builds are hidden in the development section. It took me 10 >> minutes to find them because I was searching in the download section and >> for nightly builds. The *daily* builds are available at >> http://www.python.org/dev/daily-msi/ > > The builds occur 11:00

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
osoft library? I dunno, I gotta ask. Larry -Original Message- From: "Martin v. Löwis" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:10 PM To: Christian Heimes Cc: Bill Janssen; Bugbee, Larry; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> The Windows builds are hidden in the development section. It took me 10 > minutes to find them because I was searching in the download section and > for nightly builds. The *daily* builds are available at > http://www.python.org/dev/daily-msi/ The builds occur 11:00 UTC (2.5), 12:00 UTC (2.6) an

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Do you have an opinion on the initial proposal of applink.c? The > proposal does neither seem harmful nor problematic but I also don't see > how it is going to help the op. The specific change isn't going to help. What could help is the inclusion of applink.c into dl_nt.c. This is not about so

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. Doing so will permit > Python to be used with OpenSSL 0.9.8x on Windows platforms without a > user trying to find somebody with the right compiler to rebuild a Python > for him/her. This is needed for M2Crypto, or any other OpenSSL wrapper > for that

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
From: Bill Janssen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:14 AM To: Bugbee, Larry Cc: Christian Heimes; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c? > I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see > a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bill Janssen
> Bill Janssen wrote: > [snip] > > Do you have an opinion on the initial proposal of applink.c? The > proposal does neither seem harmful nor problematic but I also don't see > how it is going to help the op. > > Christian I know nothing about it -- it's a Windows thing. But reading the note at

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Heimes
Bill Janssen wrote: [snip] Do you have an opinion on the initial proposal of applink.c? The proposal does neither seem harmful nor problematic but I also don't see how it is going to help the op. Christian ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> I don't understand how applink is going to help you. The SSL libs are statically linked > into the _ssl extension DLL. I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see any of the crypto algorithms implemented, AES, ECDSA, etc. What if we want to encrypt or sign content using

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bill Janssen
> I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see any > of the crypto algorithms implemented, AES, ECDSA, etc. What if we want > to encrypt or sign content using OpenSSL? I suggested adding a class which gives you access to those. I think it's a good idea, and that serious us

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Bugbee, Larry
> I don't understand how applink is going to help you. The SSL libs are statically linked > into the _ssl extension DLL. I personally have not used _ssl but on quick inspection I don't see any of the crypto algorithms implemented, AES, ECDSA, etc. What if we want to encrypt or sign content using

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Heimes
Barry Warsaw wrote: > That would be find with me. Where are those Windows binaries available > for download from? The Windows builds are hidden in the development section. It took me 10 minutes to find them because I was searching in the download section and for nightly builds. The *daily* builds

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 25, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> From the follow ups, it sounds like others can pitch in here. A >> question though: is it reasonable to hold up the monthly release >> because >> a binary build we're goi

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Heimes
Bugbee, Larry wrote: > Hi Barry, > > A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in > the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! > > If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. Doing so will permit > Python to be used with OpenSSL 0.9.8x on Windows platforms

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Christian Heimes
Barry Warsaw wrote: > From the follow ups, it sounds like others can pitch in here. A > question though: is it reasonable to hold up the monthly release because > a binary build we're going to make available can't be done at the same > time? > > My preference (at least for the alphas) is "no". I

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Neal Norwitz
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Bugbee, Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Barry, > > A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in > the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! > > If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. The best way to encourage its

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread David Bolen
Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Feb 24, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >>> It very well might. See Christian Heimes's follow up re: Windows >>> builds. OTOH, I'm okay if at least for the alphas, the binary >>> builds lag behind the source releases, though I'd like

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Larry, On Feb 25, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Bugbee, Larry wrote: > A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in > the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! Honestly, I have no idea! I don't have any Windows machines

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0 ...and applink.c?

2008-02-25 Thread Bugbee, Larry
Hi Barry, A question Do you know if OpenSSL's applink.c will be included in the Windows builds? If so, and I hope it is, great! If not, I'd like to encourage its inclusion. Doing so will permit Python to be used with OpenSSL 0.9.8x on Windows platforms without a user trying to find someb

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Christian Heimes wrote: > Barry Warsaw wrote: >> I'd also like for us to consider doing regular monthly releases. >> Several other FLOSS projects I'm involved with are doing this to very >> good success. The nice thing is

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-24 Thread Christian Heimes
Barry Warsaw wrote: > I'd also like for us to consider doing regular monthly releases. > Several other FLOSS projects I'm involved with are doing this to very > good success. The nice thing is that everyone knows well in advance > when the next release is going to happen, and so all developers and

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-22 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Barry] > I'd also like for us to consider doing regular monthly releases. +1 ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40

[Python-Dev] Python 2.6 and 3.0

2008-02-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I've volunteered to be the release manager for Python 2.6 and 3.0. It's been several years since I've RM'd a Python release, and I'm happy to do it again (he says while the medication is still working :). I would like to get the n