Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 migration status update across some key subcommunities (was Re: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-06-01 Thread Ludovic Gasc
2015-05-31 16:15 GMT+02:00 Nick Coghlan : > On 31 May 2015 at 19:07, Ludovic Gasc wrote: > > About Python 3 migration, I think that one of our best control stick is > > newcomers, and by extension, Python trainers/teachers. > > If newcomers learn first Python 3, when they will start to work > > p

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 migration status update across some key subcommunities (was Re: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-05-31 Thread Carol Willing
On 5/31/15 8:39 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: What I would really like to see is a Python 3 (and if you really need Python 2, here's how it differs) version of Python: Essential Reference. Agreed. If anyone has Python 3 books, talks, or resources that they find helpful and of high quality, ple

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 migration status update across some key subcommunities (was Re: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-05-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Florian Bruhin writes: > I think a big issue here is the lack of good newcomer tutorials for > Python 3. My business students (who are hardly advanced programmers) don't take tutorials seriously. They're way too focused on getting results. And there it's the "Doing with Python" books that ar

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 migration status update across some key subcommunities (was Re: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-05-31 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/31/2015 10:15 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: The education community started switching a while back - if you watch Carrie-Anne Philbin's PyCon UK 2014 keynote, one of her requests for the broader Python community was for everyone else to just catch up already in order to reduce student's confusion

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 migration status update across some key subcommunities (was Re: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-05-31 Thread Florian Bruhin
* Nick Coghlan [2015-06-01 00:15:01 +1000]: > On 31 May 2015 at 19:07, Ludovic Gasc wrote: > > About Python 3 migration, I think that one of our best control stick is > > newcomers, and by extension, Python trainers/teachers. > > If newcomers learn first Python 3, when they will start to work > >

[Python-Dev] Python 3 migration status update across some key subcommunities (was Re: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-05-31 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 31 May 2015 at 19:07, Ludovic Gasc wrote: > About Python 3 migration, I think that one of our best control stick is > newcomers, and by extension, Python trainers/teachers. > If newcomers learn first Python 3, when they will start to work > professionally, they should help to rationalize the Py