Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-10-07 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Talin wrote: > /* >Plot a point at position x, y. >'x' - The x-coordinate. >'y' - The y-coordinate. > */ > void Plot( int x, int y ); > > The scanner should note that: 'x' and 'y' are in single-quotes, so they > probably refer to code identifiers. or maybe th

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-10-07 Thread Talin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Andrew> In such autogenerated documentation, you wind up with a list of > Andrew> every single class and function, and both trivial and important > Andrew> classes are given exactly the same emphasis. > > I find this true where I work as well. Doxygen is u

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-30 Thread Steve Holden
Guido van Rossum wrote: > On 9/29/06, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 09:49:35AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>>What is lost according to him is information about how the elements of >>>a module work together. The docstrings tend to be narrowly focused

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Ron Adam
Josiah Carlson wrote: > "BJörn Lindqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> If there are "rampant criticisms" of the Python docs, then those that >>> are complaining should take specific examples of their complaints to the >>> sourceforge bug tracker and submit documentation patches for the >>> releva

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Brett Cannon
On 9/29/06, BJörn Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there are "rampant criticisms" of the Python docs, then those that> are complaining should take specific examples of their complaints to the> sourceforge bug tracker and submit documentation patches for the > relevant sections.  And person

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Josiah Carlson
"BJörn Lindqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If there are "rampant criticisms" of the Python docs, then those that > > are complaining should take specific examples of their complaints to the > > sourceforge bug tracker and submit documentation patches for the > > relevant sections. And perso

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread BJörn Lindqvist
> If there are "rampant criticisms" of the Python docs, then those that > are complaining should take specific examples of their complaints to the > sourceforge bug tracker and submit documentation patches for the > relevant sections. And personally, I've not noticed that criticisms of > the Pytho

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 9/29/06, A.M. Kuchling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 09:49:35AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What is lost according to him is information about how the elements of > > a module work together. The docstrings tend to be narrowly focused on > > the particular function

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Simon Brunning wrote: > The "How to use this module" sections sound like /F's "The Python > Standard Library", of which I keep the dead tree version on my desk > and the PDF vesion on my hard drive for when I'm coding in the pub. It > or something like it would be a superb addition to the (already

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Simon Brunning
On 9/29/06, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An example of a good way to do it is the original Inside > Macintosh series. Each chapter started with a narrative-style > "About this module" kind of section, that introduced the > relevant concepts and explained how they fitted together, > witho

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread skip
Andrew> In such autogenerated documentation, you wind up with a list of Andrew> every single class and function, and both trivial and important Andrew> classes are given exactly the same emphasis. I find this true where I work as well. Doxygen is used as a documentation generation

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 09:49:35AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is lost according to him is information about how the elements of > a module work together. The docstrings tend to be narrowly focused on > the particular function or variable, and too often discuss > implementation details.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-29 Thread Jack Jansen
On 29-sep-2006, at 4:24, Greg Ewing wrote: An example of a good way to do it is the original Inside Macintosh series. Each chapter started with a narrative-style "About this module" kind of section, that introduced the relevant concepts and explained how they fitted together, without going into

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread Greg Ewing
Barry Warsaw wrote: > There's also the pull between wanting to write reference docs for > those who know what they've forgotten (I love that phrase!) and > writing the introductory or "how it hangs together" documentation. The trick to this, I think, is not to try to make the same piece of d

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:49 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is lost according to him is information about how the elements of > a module work together. The docstrings tend to be narrowly focused on > the particular function or variable, and too of

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > xah lee writes: > > > anyway, i've rewrote the Python's RE module documentation, at: > > http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python_re-write/lib/module-re.html > > -1 > > The current docs could be improved (but not by me, at least not > today), but I don't consider the g

[Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread stephen
xah lee writes: > anyway, i've rewrote the Python's RE module documentation, at: > http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python_re-write/lib/module-re.html -1 The current docs could be improved (but not by me, at least not today), but I don't consider the general direction of Xah's edits desirable.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread stephen
Josiah Carlson writes: > fine). While I have heard comments along the lines of "the docs could > be better", I've never heard the claim that the Python docs are "lousy". FYI, I have heard this, recently, from Tom Lord (aka developer of Arch, rx, guile, etc). Since he also took a swipe at Emac

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread Josiah Carlson
xah lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot reports on the lousy state of python docs. I'm not > much in the python community so i don't know what the developers are > doing anything about it. I don't know about everyone else, but when I recieve comments like "the docs are lousy, fix

[Python-Dev] Python Doc problems

2006-09-28 Thread xah lee
There are a lot reports on the lousy state of python docs. I'm not much in the python community so i don't know what the developers are doing anything about it. anyway, i've rewrote the Python's RE module documentation, at: http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python_re-write/lib/module-re.html and