On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Raymond Hettinger
wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
>> Antonio Cuni demoed some *great* improvements to the pdb module at
>> EuroPython. A project called pdb++
>>
>> http://codespeak.net/svn/user/antocuni/hack/pdb.py
>>
>> Among its impr
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Michael Foord wrote:
> On 25/07/2010 19:34, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
>> [snip...]
>>> On the other hand, posting actual patches that fix actual bugs can
>>> make a lot of a difference. Also, having a maintainer who is willing
>>> to look into these patches and acc
On 25/07/2010 19:34, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
[snip...]
On the other hand, posting actual patches that fix actual bugs can
make a lot of a difference. Also, having a maintainer who is willing
to look into these patches and accept the good ones will make a lot
of a difference.
With resp
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
..
> It is at best entertaining to ponder about reasons here; I doubt
> anything productive can come out of such a discussion.
>
I disagree. Depending on the reasons for the relative lack of
attention to these components, several alternat
> Part of me agrees with you regarding the generally different tool
> lifecycle, but another part says we need these tools in the standard
> library or we risk inadvertently breaking the hooks they would still
> rely on, even as third party projects.
>
> I suspect a major factor here relates to th
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
>> wrote:
>>> There must be a good reason why traditional software development tools
>>> such as debugger, profiler and coverag
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
> wrote:
>> There must be a good reason why traditional software development tools
>> such as debugger, profiler and coverage are mostly neglected in
>> python.
>
> Most such tools are
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
wrote:
> There must be a good reason why traditional software development tools
> such as debugger, profiler and coverage are mostly neglected in
> python.
Most such tools are probably better developed outside the standard
library. There are m
I am changing the subject from "http://bugs.python.org/issue231540,";
because if there was a prize for a non-descriptive subject, OP would
win it.
There must be a good reason why traditional software development tools
such as debugger, profiler and coverage are mostly neglected in
python. Terry a
