Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-23 Thread Olemis Lang
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:43 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> My question is the following : >> >> - What are the implications for Py users ? > > So I stick with what you said is your question: What are the > implications for Py users ? > > To this, the answer is mostly: none at all. There may be va

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> My question is the following : > > - What are the implications for Py users ? After reading your message, I had a difficult time getting your point, or even finding out what your question is. So I stick with what you said is your question: What are the implications for Py users ? To this, the

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-22 Thread Olemis Lang
Hi ! On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > Christian Heimes wrote: >> Steve Holden wrote: >>> Devs: >>> >>> If you are interested in offering better Windows support then please >>> read the email below >> >> [...] >> MSDN subscriptions include copies of most Microsoft product

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Neil Hodgson
Curt Hagenlocher: > Ah, you're right -- the PGO bits probably need VS Pro. The 64-bit > compilers should be in the Windows SDK, but it wouldn't surprise me if > they were not included in Express. 64-bit isn't in Express and merging the 64 bit compiler from the SDK into Express may be possible

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Curt Hagenlocher
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > > Some features like PGO aren't available in VS Express Edition or Windows > SDK. I'm not sure about all aspects of X86_64 builds, too. I'm prefer > better safe than sorry. Ah, you're right -- the PGO bits probably need VS Pro. The 64-bit

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Steve Holden
Christian Heimes wrote: > Steve Holden wrote: >> Devs: >> >> I've been in correspondence with Microsoft about the provision of >> software, and it transpires that if you want to support Windows better >> Microsoft will be quite liberal about licensing: they will *give* you a >> Microsoft Developer

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Christian Heimes
Curt Hagenlocher wrote: > Considering that the compilers are all freely downloadable as part of > the Windows SDK, it would be weird if the subscription were *more* > restrictive than what you can get without it. > > Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft, but eh, I'm just guessing. Some features like

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Curt Hagenlocher
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > > Does the MSDN subscription also include the permission to create and > release binaries? Sam Ramji wrote just "developing and testing". Me and > probably all other subscribers like to use the MSDN subscription to > build Windows binaries

Re: [Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Christian Heimes
Steve Holden wrote: > Devs: > > I've been in correspondence with Microsoft about the provision of > software, and it transpires that if you want to support Windows better > Microsoft will be quite liberal about licensing: they will *give* you a > Microsoft Developer Network license. > > If you ar

[Python-Dev] Support for Python/Windows

2009-07-21 Thread Steve Holden
Devs: I've been in correspondence with Microsoft about the provision of software, and it transpires that if you want to support Windows better Microsoft will be quite liberal about licensing: they will *give* you a Microsoft Developer Network license. If you are interested in offering better Wind