Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-14 Thread Koos Zevenhoven
I'll quickly add a few things below just in case there's anyone that cares. On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 AM, Koos Zevenhoven wrote: > > The idea was to always explicitly define the scope of contextvar values. A > context manager / with statement determined the scope of

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-14 Thread Koos Zevenhoven
The timing of all of this is unfortunate. I'm sorry that my participation in the discussion has been a bit "on-off" lately. But my recent contributions have involved studying things like the interaction of threading/concurrency aspects of signal handling, as well as investigating subtleties of

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
I'm sorry, Koos, but based on your past contributions I am not interested in discussing this topic with you. On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Koos Zevenhoven wrote: > The status of PEP 555 is just a side track. Here, I took a step back > compared to what went into PEP 555. >

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-10 Thread Koos Zevenhoven
The status of PEP 555 is just a side track. Here, I took a step back compared to what went into PEP 555. —Koos On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > The current status of PEP 555 is "Withdrawn". I have no interest in > considering it any more, so if

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
The current status of PEP 555 is "Withdrawn". I have no interest in considering it any more, so if you'd rather see a decision from me I'll be happy to change it to "Rejected". On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Koos Zevenhoven wrote: > On Jan 10, 2018 07:17, "Yury Selivanov"

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-09 Thread Koos Zevenhoven
On Jan 10, 2018 07:17, "Yury Selivanov" wrote: Wasn't PEP 555 rejected by Guido? What's the point of this post? I sure hope there is a point. I don't think mentioning PEP 555 in the discussions should hurt. A typo in my post btw: should be "PEP 567 (+568 ?)" in the

Re: [Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-09 Thread Yury Selivanov
Wasn't PEP 555 rejected by Guido? What's the point of this post? Yury On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:08 AM Koos Zevenhoven wrote: > Hi all, > > I feel like I should write some thoughts regarding the "context" > discussion, related to the various PEPs. > > I like PEP 567 (+ 567 ?)

[Python-Dev] Thoughts on "contexts". PEPs 550, 555, 567, 568

2018-01-09 Thread Koos Zevenhoven
Hi all, I feel like I should write some thoughts regarding the "context" discussion, related to the various PEPs. I like PEP 567 (+ 567 ?) better than PEP 550. However, besides providing cvar.set(), I'm not really sure about the gain compared to PEP 555 (which could easily have e.g. a dict-like