Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-11-27 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 02:24:10AM -0700, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > Is it still up to date? Bug has been created in 2004. > I don't see Tru64 in list of available buildbots. > > Do we need to care about this platform? And how to make sure what > existing code works fine for that? There's a Snak

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-10-04 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/09/12 00:11, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > We don't need to. It's perfectly fine if it breaks - we just can't > actively remove code to support the platform. > > OTOH, if Tru64 was proposed for "unsupport", we could disable > support in 3.4, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-05 Thread martin
Zitat von Larry Hastings : On 09/04/2012 03:15 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: The world wouldn't end if the test broke on Tru64, though. FWIW, HP drops support for Tru64 at the end of this year: http://h30097.www3.hp.com/tru64roadmap.pdf Of course, this doesn't directly imply Python sho

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-05 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:26:03 -0700 Larry Hastings wrote: > > On 09/04/2012 03:15 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: > > The world wouldn't end if the test broke on Tru64, though. > > FWIW, HP drops support for Tru64 at the end of this year: > > http://h30097.www3.hp.com/tru64roadmap.pdf > > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-05 Thread Larry Hastings
On 09/04/2012 03:15 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: The world wouldn't end if the test broke on Tru64, though. FWIW, HP drops support for Tru64 at the end of this year: http://h30097.www3.hp.com/tru64roadmap.pdf Of course, this doesn't directly imply Python should stop supporting it--IIRC

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-05 Thread Andrew Svetlov
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:15 AM, wrote: > 2.7 should absolutely be able to support Tru64 (even though it currently > may not - that would be a bug). Any potential contributor to fix Tru64 > support > should find it "easy" to add fixes. > > So being cautious and following existing code sounds like

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread martin
Zitat von Terry Reedy : On 9/4/2012 9:00 AM, Andrew Svetlov wrote: Aha, ./Doc/whatsnew/3.0.rst declares dropping support for Tru64. Several files in repo mention it, though. That suggests that it should be added to PEP11. Martin is the PEP editor, so I guess it is his final decision. I'd

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread martin
Zitat von Trent Nelson : OpenVMS is an interesting one though; it's still actively supported by HP on Itanium. I've got an Itanium earmarked marked for OpenVMS "for an even rainier day", but I wouldn't know OpenVMS is it smacked me in the head, so, not a high priority at the mo

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread martin
Zitat von Chris Jerdonek : And for Python 2.7 when adding new tests Hmm. Adding new tests to 2.7 is a questionable activity in the first place - it should be done very carefully. does this mean we should write those tests in a way that attempts to have them pass on Tru64 (e.g. by following

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread martin
Zitat von Andrew Svetlov : http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/82ae284cd5f1/Lib/test/test_subprocess.py#l374 is link to comment, http://bugs.python.org/issue1063571 — issue in bugtracker. Is it still up to date? Bug has been created in 2004. I don't see Tru64 in list of available buildbots. Do

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/4/2012 9:00 AM, Andrew Svetlov wrote: Aha, ./Doc/whatsnew/3.0.rst declares dropping support for Tru64. Several files in repo mention it, though. That suggests that it should be added to PEP11. Martin is the PEP editor, so I guess it is his final decision. -- Terry Jan Reedy __

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Terry Reedy
On 9/4/2012 5:24 AM, Andrew Svetlov wrote: Unittests for subprocess module has weird comment: We cannot use os.path.realpath to canonicalize the path, since it doesn't expand Tru64 {memb} strings. See bug 1063571. http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/82ae284cd5f1/Lib/test/test_subprocess.py#l374 is

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Trent Nelson
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 02:24:10AM -0700, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > Is it still up to date? Bug has been created in 2004. > I don't see Tru64 in list of available buildbots. > > Do we need to care about this platform? And how to make sure what > existing code works fine for that? > > Or maybe we can

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:19:38 +0300, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > I don't think so. If some hypothetical Tru64 user cares, they can > > probably open a bug on the tracker. > > > Thanks. I used to work on Tru64 systems many years ago. Accordin

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Aha, ./Doc/whatsnew/3.0.rst declares dropping support for Tru64. Several files in repo mention it, though. On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> I don't think so. If some hypothetical Tru64 user cares, they can >> probabl

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Andrew Svetlov
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > I don't think so. If some hypothetical Tru64 user cares, they can > probably open a bug on the tracker. > Thanks. -- Thanks, Andrew Svetlov ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http:/

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 12:24:10 +0300 Andrew Svetlov wrote: > Unittests for subprocess module has weird comment: > We cannot use os.path.realpath to canonicalize the path, since it > doesn't expand Tru64 {memb} strings. > See bug 1063571. > http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/82ae284cd5f1/Lib/test/test_

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: >> Or maybe we can drop support for Tru64 as well as we already does it >> for, say, VMS? > > See the PEP 11 for unsupported platforms. > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0011/#no-longer-supported-platforms > > "Name: VMS > Unsupported in: Py

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Victor Stinner
2012/9/4 Andrew Svetlov : > I don't see Tru64 in list of available buildbots. Nope, there is no Tru64 buildbot. > Do we need to care about this platform? And how to make sure what > existing code works fine for that? I don't know this OS. According to Wikipedia, it's a closed source OS which onl

Re: [Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Andrew Svetlov wrote: > Unittests for subprocess module has weird comment: > We cannot use os.path.realpath to canonicalize the path, since it > doesn't expand Tru64 {memb} strings. > See bug 1063571. > http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/82ae284cd5f1/Lib/test/test_su

[Python-Dev] Tru64 support

2012-09-04 Thread Andrew Svetlov
Unittests for subprocess module has weird comment: We cannot use os.path.realpath to canonicalize the path, since it doesn't expand Tru64 {memb} strings. See bug 1063571. http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/82ae284cd5f1/Lib/test/test_subprocess.py#l374 is link to comment, http://bugs.python.org/issue