Re: [Python-Dev] bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the course of action

2018-05-14 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
On 14.05.2018 22:05, Ivan Pozdeev wrote: On 14.05.2018 21:58, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/14/2018 12:20 PM, Chris Barker via Python-Dev wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Terry Reedy > wrote:     On 5/2/2018 4:38 PM, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the course of action

2018-05-14 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
On 14.05.2018 21:58, Terry Reedy wrote: On 5/14/2018 12:20 PM, Chris Barker via Python-Dev wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Terry Reedy > wrote:     On 5/2/2018 4:38 PM, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote:     The bottom line is: Tkinter is

Re: [Python-Dev] bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the course of action

2018-05-14 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/14/2018 12:20 PM, Chris Barker via Python-Dev wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Terry Reedy > wrote: On 5/2/2018 4:38 PM, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: The bottom line is: Tkinter is currently broken This is way

Re: [Python-Dev] bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the course of action

2018-05-14 Thread Chris Barker via Python-Dev
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 5/2/2018 4:38 PM, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: > >> The bottom line is: Tkinter is currently broken >> > > This is way over-stated. Many modules have bugs, somethings in features > more central to their main

Re: [Python-Dev] bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the course of action

2018-05-02 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/2/2018 4:38 PM, Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev wrote: The bottom line is: Tkinter is currently broken This is way over-stated. Many modules have bugs, somethings in features more central to their main purpose. -- as in, it's not thread-safe (in both Py2 and Py3) Meaning that tkinter

[Python-Dev] bpo-33257: seeking advice & approval on the course of action

2018-05-02 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev
The bottom line is: Tkinter is currently broken -- as in, it's not thread-safe (in both Py2 and Py3) despite being designed and advertizing itself as such. All the fix options require some redesign of either `_tkinter', or some of the core as well. So, I'd like to get some kind of core team's