Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-29 Thread skip
I guess I have my work cut out for me. It appears my preferred mail reader, VM, is not supported out-of-the-box by GNU Emacs (they still use Rmail and Babyl for some reason), and I'm not sure the investment trying to get XEmacs built with MULE is worth the effort. Anders

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-29 Thread Anders J. Munch
s...@pobox.com wrote: I guess I have my work cut out for me. It appears my preferred mail reader, VM, is not supported out-of-the-box by GNU Emacs (they still use Rmail and Babyl for some reason), and I'm not sure the investment trying to get XEmacs built with MULE is worth the effort. Use a

[Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. I believe you need to add MULE to it.) Is there some reason such messages can't

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:06:49 -0500 s...@pobox.com wrote: It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. I believe you need

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 05:21:08PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:06:49 -0500 s...@pobox.com wrote: It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I use VM within XEmacs.

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
Antoine Hmm, are you sure? Software (especially mail-reading software) Antoine that doesn't support utf-8 in 2011 should be considered Antoine extremely broken. I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me. I was just asking if it would be

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Eugene Toder
I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me.  I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Isn't utf-8 itself same as ascii where no non-ascii symbols are used? Eugene

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Georg Brandl
On 27.03.2011 18:33, Jon Ribbens wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 05:21:08PM +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:06:49 -0500 s...@pobox.com wrote: It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:33:04 +0100, Jon Ribbens wrote: In my experience it is very difficult to get a whole system configured, such that UTF-8 works reliably. In my case that would mean, I think, Linux, glibc, mutt, screen, elinks, and SecureCRT would all have to simultaneously be configured

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 27.03.2011 17:06, schrieb s...@pobox.com: It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. I believe you need to add MULE

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 02:13:29PM -0400, Eugene Toder wrote: I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me.  I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Isn't utf-8 itself same as

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Jon Ribbens
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 02:21:25PM -0400, R. David Murray wrote: Mind you, I've never managed to get the -- button working reliably either, but to be fair that's insanely complicated too. No idea what that is. Backspace key. ___ Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me.  I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Eugene Isn't utf-8 itself same as ascii where no non-ascii symbols are

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread skip
Martin Am 27.03.2011 17:06, schrieb s...@pobox.com: It seems that all checkin mails are utf-8-encoded. This makes it challenging to view checkin mails if you have a text-based mail reader. (I use VM within XEmacs. XEmacs doesn't seem to support utf-8 out of the box. I

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/27/2011 2:13 PM, Eugene Toder wrote: I'm not disputing that, and I understand that my current choice of mail reader limits me. I was just asking if it would be possible (read: fairly easy) to only generate utf-8 when it was necessary. Isn't utf-8 itself same as ascii where no non-ascii

Re: [Python-Dev] utf-8 encoding in checkins?

2011-03-27 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:46:35 +0100, Jon Ribbens jon+python-...@unequivocal.co.uk wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 02:21:25PM -0400, R. David Murray wrote: Mind you, I've never managed to get the -- button working reliably either, but to be fair that's insanely complicated too. No idea