Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Long term, remapping even the deep links to the appropriate part of the > new docs should hopefully be possible. > > For the search engine issue, is there any way we can tell robots to > ignore the rewrite rules so they see

[Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

> For the search engine issue, is there any way we can tell robots to > ignore the rewrite rules so they see the broken links? (although even > that may not be ideal, since what we really want is to tell the robot > the link is broken, and provide the new alternative) I may be missing something ob

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Thomas Wouters wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 15:51, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > >Nick> The old doc directories are already kept around (all the > way back >Nick> to 1.4 in fact: http://www.python.org/doc/1.4/) > >Nick> As a quic

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Thomas Wouters schrieb: > After discussing on #python-dev (briefly), I made the toplevel > directories refer to the new, 2.6 toplevel directories, but deeper URLs > in the old directories redirect to www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/ > . I still think this is the wrong >

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

>> Wouldn't that require changes to the old pages? > > Hopefully just to whatever common templating they're using. I'm not > familiar with how they're generated though. That's exactly the problem: they are generated. I don't think it's feasible to regenerate them, and still expect the output to

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:13 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why not use versioned URLs, but with a link at the top of old pages >> saying they're outdated, linking to the new version. Either way they >> should update their links, but this way you don't shoot them in the >> foo

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

> Why not use versioned URLs, but with a link at the top of old pages > saying they're outdated, linking to the new version. Either way they > should update their links, but this way you don't shoot them in the > foot to do it. Wouldn't that require changes to the old pages? Regards, Martin ___

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 15:51, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Nick> The old doc directories are already kept around (all the way back >Nick> to 1.4 in fact: http://www.python.org/doc/1.4/) > >Nick> As a quick fix for the old links, a rewrite rule to map such links >Nick> to the 2.5 d

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Nick> The old doc directories are already kept around (all the way back Nick> to 1.4 in fact: http://www.python.org/doc/1.4/) Nick> As a quick fix for the old links, a rewrite rule to map such links Nick> to the 2.5 docs seems like a very good idea to me. Since old URLs Nick>

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 15:47, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single >>> one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for >>> most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is >>> quite

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

>> Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single >> one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for >> most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is >> quite a lot of 'else' in the 2.5-and-earlier docs -- needs a better

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Georg Brandl wrote: > That's true; it's also not what I meant. The versioned docs will of course > always stay there. The question is what to do for URLs that refer to > docs.python.org, but with old filenames. I still like the idea of redirecting such URLs to the old 2.5.2 docs as a short-term fi

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Tres Seaver schrieb: > Georg Brandl wrote: > docs.pyhton.org/ (note no *) could redirect to docs.python.org/2.6/ and > include a link to docs.python.org/3.0/ We already have archived versioned docs at http://www.python.org/doc/X.Y. >>> Why not use versioned URLs, but with a link at t

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georg Brandl wrote: > Adam Olsen schrieb: >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Doug Hellmann schrieb: >>> > Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single > one that's the same. We

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: If linking to the new version could be done easily, we could as well directly redirect. The problem is that having that mapping in the first place is hard. I was looking for the easy route. If the layout of the new docs changed complete

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: Doug Hellmann schrieb: Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is quite a lot of 'el

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Adam Olsen schrieb: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Doug Hellmann schrieb: >> Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for most of the module-*.html

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Georg Brandl wrote: > Nevertheless, I will come up with a mapping for the old module URLs, > which is relatively easy. Best solution of all :) I was actually only suggesting redirecting to the old docs until such a mapping was available - but if that mapping will be available fairly soon, then bu

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Hellmann schrieb: > >>> Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single >>> one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for >>> most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Doug Hellmann wrote: > Perhaps it has already been suggested and rejected for some reason, but > we could include the major/minor version numbers in the URLs. That > would make it easier to rewrite old URLs, and I assume there will be 2.x > and 3.x documentation available online for some period of

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Doug Hellmann schrieb: >> Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single >> one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for >> most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is >> quite a lot of 'else' in the 2.5-and-earlier docs -- needs

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

> > Not a single one, no. The URLs *all* changed. There is not a single > one that's the same. We may be able to do a single rewrite rule for > most of the module-*.html URLs, but everything else -- and there is > quite a lot of 'else' in the 2.5-and-earlier docs -- needs a better > mapping. Feel

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:28 AM, Thomas Wouters wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:44, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas Wouters python.org> writes: > > If anyone feels particularly frustrated by the old URLs breaking, I wouldn't mind adding a redirection for each individual URL

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:44, Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Wouters python.org> writes: > > > > If anyone feels particularly frustrated by the old URLs breaking, I > wouldn't > mind adding a redirection for each individual URL as long as I don't have > to > build that mapping

Re: [Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

Thomas Wouters python.org> writes: > > If anyone feels particularly frustrated by the old URLs breaking, I wouldn't mind adding a redirection for each individual URL as long as I don't have to build that mapping Well in general URLs aren't supposed to break (except the ones which are deliberatel

[Python-Dev] www.python.org/doc and docs.python.org hotfixed

I hotfixed docs.python.org and www.python.org/doc with some cutesy improv -- the URLs changed from .../lib/ to ../library/, and any HTML pages inside them are completely different. So, any http://docs.python.org/lib/... URL now redirects to the toplevel http://docs.python.org/library/ (and similar