Tristan Seligmann wrote:
* Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-29 18:19:20 -0700]:
In my mind, 'if' and 'or' are syntax, whereas things like 'None' or
'True' are values; even if None becomes an actual keyword, rather than
a builtin.
I'm sorry, but that is such an incredibly
Delaney, Timothy (Tim) wrote:
What I'm proposing is that the `super = super_factory()` line be
implicit in this case, resulting in the following code behaving
identically:
class A(object):
def f(self):
def inner():
return 'A' + super.f()
From: Delaney, Timothy (Tim) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry - this is related to my proposal that the following two bits of
code behave the same:
class A(object):
def f(self, *p, **kw):
super.f(*p, **kw)
class A(object):
def f(self, *p, **kw):
On 4/30/07, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:
1. When a method is defined, the class is bound to it via an
attribute
(which in my version is called func_class).
In Py3k all the func_XXX attrs are renamed __XXX__, so this would be
__class__; but
From: Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe the direction my PEP took with all this is a good bit
primitive compared to this approach, although I still find value in it
because at least a prototype came out of it that can be used to test
the waters, regardless of if a more
On 4/30/07, Tim Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been working on improved super syntax for quite a while now - my
original approach was 'self.super' which used _getframe() and mro crawling
too. I hit on using bytecode hacking to instantiate a super object at the
start of the method to
On 4/29/07, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:
2. Every non-static method has an implicit cell variable called
'super'.
I think you're using 'cell' in a different sense than it is normally
used in Python's implementation. What you are looking for is
On 4/29/07, Tim Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been intending to write up a PEP for fixing super, but I haven't had
time to get to it.
Calvin Spealman has the most recent draft. I hope he will incorporate
this into his draft.
1. 'super' becomes a keyword, that returns a super object
On 4/29/07, Jim Jewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/29/07, Tim Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been intending to write up a PEP for fixing super, but I haven't had
time to get to it.
Calvin Spealman has the most recent draft. I hope he will incorporate
this into his draft.
I will
On 4/29/07, Jim Jewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So it is a keyword in the sense that None is a keyword; not in the
stronger sense that if is a keyword?
Um, how do you see those two differ? Is 'if' a keyword in the same
sense as 'or', or in a different sense?
I realize that in Python 2.5, None
On 4/29/07, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 4/29/07, Jim Jewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So it is a keyword in the sense that None is a keyword; not in the
stronger sense that if is a keyword?
Um, how do you see those two differ? Is 'if' a keyword in the same
sense as 'or', or
* Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-29 16:30:18 -0700]:
On 4/29/07, Jim Jewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So it is a keyword in the sense that None is a keyword; not in the
stronger sense that if is a keyword?
Um, how do you see those two differ? Is 'if' a keyword in the same
On 4/29/07, Tristan Seligmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-29 16:30:18 -0700]:
On 4/29/07, Jim Jewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So it is a keyword in the sense that None is a keyword; not in the
stronger sense that if is a keyword?
Um, how do
Jim Jewett wrote:
On 4/29/07, Tim Delaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been intending to write up a PEP for fixing super, but I
haven't had time to get to it.
Calvin Spealman has the most recent draft. I hope he will incorporate
this into his draft.
Sorry about this - wasn't receiving
* Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-29 18:19:20 -0700]:
In my mind, 'if' and 'or' are syntax, whereas things like 'None' or
'True' are values; even if None becomes an actual keyword, rather than
a builtin.
I'm sorry, but that is such an incredibly subjective difference that I
On 4/29/07, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the current PEP draft is way too complicated - I don't think
there's any need for descriptors, etc. I think we can make things work
in the following way:
1. When a method is defined, the class is bound to it via an attribute
Guido van Rossum wrote:
1. When a method is defined, the class is bound to it via an
attribute
(which in my version is called func_class).
In Py3k all the func_XXX attrs are renamed __XXX__, so this would be
__class__; but that's a name reserved for something else, so it would
need to be
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