Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-11 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I think I've decided I don't mind either way, so I'm fine with whichever > approach is easier for Benjamin and the platform installer builders to > manage. +1 -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) ___

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > [MvL] >>> I personally think that decoupling the releases would be best, i.e. >>> not start thinking about 3.2 for another 6 months. > > [Benjamin] >> The problem with that is that there is a period of time where 2.x has >> features which 3.x doesn't. My preference is

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > > [Guido van Rossum] >> >> . We used to have releases once a year and >> we got really big serious feedback from our biggest users that the >> release cycle was going too fast. We discussed it amply and agreed on >> a minimum time of 18

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[MvL] I personally think that decoupling the releases would be best, i.e. not start thinking about 3.2 for another 6 months. [Benjamin] The problem with that is that there is a period of time where 2.x has features which 3.x doesn't. My preference is to move back the whole schedule 6 months.

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Benjamin Peterson wrote: > 2009/11/10 "Martin v. Löwis" : >> I personally think that decoupling the releases would be best, i.e. >> not start thinking about 3.2 for another 6 months. > > The problem with that is that there is a period of time where 2.x has > features which 3.x doesn't. My preferen

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2009/11/10 "Martin v. Löwis" : > I personally think that decoupling the releases would be best, i.e. > not start thinking about 3.2 for another 6 months. The problem with that is that there is a period of time where 2.x has features which 3.x doesn't. My preference is to move back the whole schedu

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> PEP 3003 states that Python 3.2 will be released 18-24 months after >>> Python 3.1. Python 3.1 was released on June 2009-06-27 [1], so >>> theoretically Python 3.2 should be released not before 2010-12-19 [2]. >> The PEP 3003 text isn't allowing for the fact that 3.1 is "

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> PEP 3003 states that Python 3.2 will be released 18-24 months after >> Python 3.1. Python 3.1 was released on June 2009-06-27 [1], so >> theoretically Python 3.2 should be released not before 2010-12-19 [2]. > > The PEP 3003 text isn't allowing for the fact that 3.1 is "3.0 as it > should have

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raymond Hettinger wrote: > [Guido van Rossum] >> . We used to have releases once a year and >> we got really big serious feedback from our biggest users that the >> release cycle was going too fast. We discussed it amply and agreed on >> a minimum time

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Guido van Rossum] . We used to have releases once a year and we got really big serious feedback from our biggest users that the release cycle was going too fast. We discussed it amply and agreed on a minimum time of 18 months between releases. If the language moratorium goes into effect, wou

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Guido van Rossum python.org> writes: >> >> Was this discussed somewhere? > > I don't remember so, except for a short subthread on python-ideas where you > indeed mentioned (to my disappointment :-)) that you were against a one-year > releas

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Guido van Rossum python.org> writes: > > Was this discussed somewhere? I don't remember so, except for a short subthread on python-ideas where you indeed mentioned (to my disappointment :-)) that you were against a one-year release period. Regards Antoine. ___

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: >> 2009-11-02 21:00 Benjamin Peterson napisał(a): >>> I've updated PEP 373 with my proposed release schedule: >>> >>> - 2.7/3.2 alpha 1 2009-12-05 >>> - 2.7/3.2 alpha 2 2010-01-09 >>> - 2.7/3.2 alpha

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2009-11-02 21:00 Benjamin Peterson napisał(a): >> I've updated PEP 373 with my proposed release schedule: >> >> - 2.7/3.2 alpha 1 2009-12-05 >> - 2.7/3.2 alpha 2 2010-01-09 >> - 2.7/3.2 alpha 3 2010-02-06 >> - 2.7/3.2 alpha 4 2010-03-06 >> - 2.7/3.2 bet

Re: [Python-Dev] 2.7/3.2 release schedule

2009-11-10 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-11-02 21:00 Benjamin Peterson napisał(a): > I've updated PEP 373 with my proposed release schedule: > > - 2.7/3.2 alpha 1 2009-12-05 > - 2.7/3.2 alpha 2 2010-01-09 > - 2.7/3.2 alpha 3 2010-02-06 > - 2.7/3.2 alpha 4 2010-03-06 > - 2.7/3.2 beta 1 2010-04-03 > - 2.7/3.2 beta 2 2010-05-01 > - 2.7