On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
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How hard would it be to recode the sprintf language but with the
locale fixed to C? That would always be ASCII.
This is exactly what I proposed at
http://bugs.python.org/issue7584#msg110240 not so long ago. Given
On 7/23/10 2:44 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Indeed, we meant b'...{}...{}...'.format(x, y). The problem is that it
can't invoke x.__format__() or y.__format__() since those will return
text strings instead of bytes. A proposed solution was to try
x.__bformat__() etc. Another proposed solution
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
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Indeed, we meant b'...{}...{}...'.format(x, y). The problem is that it
can't invoke x.__format__() or y.__format__() since those will return
text strings instead of bytes. A proposed solution was to try
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
On 7/23/10 2:44 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Indeed, we meant b'...{}...{}...'.format(x, y). The problem is that it
can't invoke x.__format__() or y.__format__() since those will return
text strings instead of bytes. A
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
On 7/23/10 2:44 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Indeed, we meant b'...{}...{}...'.format(x, y). The problem is that it
can't invoke
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
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If I had to choose I'd never show the microseconds.
Or the timezone offset, right?
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On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
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Maybe self.__format__(..).encode('ascii')? ...encode('utf-8') is a
tempting alternative as well.
-1
That would bring back the it fails for some users but passes for the
developer problem. (True, if the developer
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
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Maybe self.__format__(..).encode('ascii')? ...encode('utf-8') is a
tempting alternative as well.
-1
That would bring
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Eric Smith e...@trueblade.com wrote:
Thanks for writing this, Tim.
On 7/21/10 11:11 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
The issue of a __format__ equivalent for bytes was also raised as was the
idea of object methods to render an object as string or bytes, which could
be
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 13:00, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:51:57 +0100
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
That's an option. I just remember Tim bringing up something about that
approach that didn't quite work as a complete replacement for __del__.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 16:58, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:42:00 -0400
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk
wrote:
[...snip...]
A messy discussion turned on the question of garbage
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 16:58, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:42:00 -0400
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk
wrote:
On Jul 21, 2010, at 04:11 PM, Tim Golden wrote:
The email module needs some work in Py3. David Murray has been given
some money by the PSF but needs more from other sources to complete
the work. This is hampered by the legalities around commercial
organisations making donations to not-for-profits
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:51:57 +0100
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
That's an option. I just remember Tim bringing up something about that
approach that didn't quite work as a complete replacement for __del__.
Basically the whole setting a module's globals to None was done before gc
2010/7/22 Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:51:57 +0100
Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:
That's an option. I just remember Tim bringing up something about that
approach that didn't quite work as a complete replacement for __del__.
Basically the whole setting a
Thanks for writing this, Tim.
On 7/21/10 11:11 AM, Tim Golden wrote:
The issue of a __format__ equivalent for bytes was also raised as was the
idea of object methods to render an object as string or bytes, which could
be used in the polymorphic functions above.
Does this mean
Maciej Fijalkowski, 22.07.2010 10:43:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Brett Cannon wrote:
Basically the whole setting a module's globals to None was done before gc
came into the language. Now that it's there it seems that it might work to
simply let gc clean up the module itself. But this
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote:
[...snip...]
A messy discussion turned on the question of garbage collection of module
objects, and the order in which finalisers are called if at all, especially
when reference cycles exist. Marc Andre was proposing a
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:42:00 -0400
Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote:
[...snip...]
A messy discussion turned on the question of garbage collection of module
objects, and the order in which finalisers are called if at
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 17:11, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote:
The Mercurial migration should move forward once Dirkjan has finished work
on his thesis. Martin insisted that a for-real repository would have to be
set up so that people can really see how it would work. An outstanding
Tim, thanks for this write-up!
Bill
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Thanks Tim !
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote:
[..]
Several people outlined the recent heated discussion over the addition
of a checkbox to the PyPI user-registration pages. Tarek has already
undertaken to patch PyPI to move the checkbox back one step,
Am 21.07.10 17:47, schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman:
Martin Tim brought up the issue of externals which the buildbots
use on Windows to bring in and build slightly patched versions of external
libraries such as OpenSSL and sqlite3.
The issue in hgsubversion (which is different from hgsvn) has been
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote:
A discussion on the Cheeseshop / Package Index highlighted the fact that
the packaging infrastructure has become increasingly important especially
since setuptools, buildout and pip all download from it. Richard produced
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 19:38, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
From what I've been able to tell from afar, I strongly suspect PyPI's
downtimes would be greatly reduced with a move to mod_wsgi (currently it is
using mod_fcgi, and most downtime is solved with an Apache restart --
mod_wsgi
On 7/21/2010 6:21 PM, Tarek Ziadé wrote:
Thanks Tim !
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk wrote:
[..]
Several people outlined the recent heated discussion over the addition
of a checkbox to the PyPI user-registration pages. Tarek has already
undertaken to
On 7/21/2010 10:40 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 19:38, Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
From what I've been able to tell from afar, I strongly suspect PyPI's
downtimes would be greatly reduced with a move to mod_wsgi (currently it is
using mod_fcgi, and most
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