Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-28 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>> (*) Remember, however, that Tarek and work on Distribute, and also on >> bringing pieces of setuptools/Distribute functionality into distutils. > > But if that's the case then why not work on any third party tool..? like > pip or setuptools? > > It seems are very longwinded process if the only w

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-27 Thread David Lyon
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:20:03 + (UTC), Antoine Pitrou wrote: > (*) Remember, however, that Tarek and work on Distribute, and also on > bringing pieces of setuptools/Distribute functionality into distutils. But if that's the case then why not work on any third party tool..? like pip or setupto

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-22 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Glenn Linderman g.nevcal.com> writes: > > Maybe what David is missing is that since python-dev is uninterested in > the package management issue, [...] It's a bit strong to say we are uninterested. Most of us are not interested enough to tackle it ourselves (*), but we are certainly interested

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-22 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:35:49PM -0700, Glenn Linderman wrote: > Maybe what David is missing is that since python-dev is uninterested in > the package management issue, the only remaining way to include package > management in a convenient, single installation, is to > > 1) Create the package

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-22 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 08:34:24PM -0400, David Lyon wrote: > I started out some time ago and wrote a Python Package Manager > with wxpython. David, your message appeared in the middle of another thread. Please don't use "Reply" button to start a new thread - send a new message. Oleg. --

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
David Lyon writes: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:38:26 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > > David, you are making a huge leap here thinking that we even want > > a package manager in the stdlib. > > Well - who is 'we'? If it's python-dev people I can accept and > respect that. Yes. The stdlib is a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-21 Thread Glenn Linderman
On approximately 10/21/2009 7:13 PM, came the following characters from the keyboard of David Lyon: On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:38:26 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: We make a language here. Distutils exists as a bootstrap mechanism for the package story and for our own building needs of the stdlib.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-21 Thread David Lyon
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:38:26 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > But that assumes you can get your tool into the stdlib. No I'm not assuming that I can. I am actually assuming that I cannot.. So lets move forward.. > It would have been > better to phrase the question as "is there interest in having a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-21 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 18:17, David Lyon wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:56:57 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > but I don't see why python-dev should have input on that sort of thing. > > python-dev is the only place where we could get a change to the > installation > binary release. We'd need

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-21 Thread David Lyon
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:56:57 -0700, Brett Cannon wrote: > but I don't see why python-dev should have input on that sort of thing. python-dev is the only place where we could get a change to the installation binary release. We'd need a change and the addition of a program shortcut. > If you want

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Package Management Roadmap in Python Releases

2009-10-21 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 17:34, David Lyon wrote: > > Hi All, > > I started out some time ago and wrote a Python Package Manager > with wxpython. It was an interesting learning experience for > me. I was new to python. > > Some have pointed out that using wx was not a good idea for > a tool to go