Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 11:16, Guido van Rossum wrote: Really? I do this kind of thing all the time: import os import errno try: os.makedirs(dn) except OSError, e: if e.errno errno.EEXIST: raise You have a lot more faith in the errno module than I do. Are you

Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-24 Thread Andrew McNamara
You have a lot more faith in the errno module than I do. Are you sure the same error codes work on all platforms where Python works? No, but I'm pretty confident the symbolic names for the errors are consistent for any platform I've cared about wink. It's also not exactly readable (except

Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-22 Thread David Ascher
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:16:52 -0800, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? I do this kind of thing all the time: import os import errno try: os.makedirs(dn) except OSError, e: if e.errno errno.EEXIST: raise You have a lot more faith in the errno

Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-21 Thread Guido van Rossum
Anyway, can you explain why LBYL is bad? In the general case, it's bad because of a combination of issues. It may violate once, and only once! -- the operations one needs to check may basicaly duplicate the operations one then wants to perform. Apart from wasted effort, it may happen

Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-20 Thread Alex Martelli
On 2005 Feb 20, at 05:20, Raymond Hettinger wrote: ... This sort of thing is easy to test for and easy to fix. The question is whether we care about updating this module anymore or is it a relic. Also, is the use case one that we care about. AFAICT, this has never come up before. I did have

Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-20 Thread Greg Ewing
Alex Martelli wrote: On 2005 Feb 20, at 17:06, Guido van Rossum wrote: Oh, bah. That's not what basestring was for. I can't blame you or your client, but my *intention* was that basestring would *only* be the base of the two *real* built-in string types (str and unicode). I think all this just

Re: [Python-Dev] UserString

2005-02-20 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 04:32 PM 2/21/05 +1300, Greg Ewing wrote: Alex Martelli wrote: The need to check is this thingy here string-like is sort of frequent, because strings are sequences which, when iterated on, yield sequences (strings of length 1) which, when iterated on, yield sequences ad infinitum. Yes, this