Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-14 Thread Zachary Ware
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: >> Now that no warnings is a serious goal for 3.4+, I will report them should >> they recur. > > If we're at no warnings, and no warnings is a serious goal, warnings > should be errors. I'

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-14 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
14.03.14 07:59, Brian Curtin написав(ла): On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: Now that no warnings is a serious goal for 3.4+, I will report them should they recur. If we're at no warnings, and no warnings is a serious goal, warnings should be errors. Sources still are not C

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Brian Curtin
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/13/2014 7:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >> Christian Heimes writes: >> >> > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? >> >> Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are >> no irrelevant

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Georg Brandl writes: > I think Chris meant he'd sound like an ad for Coverity. Oh, that. IIRC, we pay them nothing for the service. I know that they do it in part for commercial reasons and that it undoubtedly doesn't cost them a lot, but nonetheless it is a benefit that wouldn't hurt for ackn

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/13/2014 7:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Christian Heimes writes: > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are no irrelevant half-naked glistening bodies. (Former newts in the pond don't count.)

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:23:14 -0500, "Andrew M. Hettinger" wrote: > Antoine Pitrou wrote on 03/13/2014 01:46:12 PM: > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:57:41 +0100 > > Victor Stinner wrote: > > > 2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > > > > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verificati

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Andrew M. Hettinger
Antoine Pitrou wrote on 03/13/2014 01:46:12 PM: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:57:41 +0100 > Victor Stinner wrote: > > 2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > > > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including > > > hostname matching and CRL. > > > > > > * http://bugs.py

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:57:41 +0100 Victor Stinner wrote: > 2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including > > hostname matching and CRL. > > > > * http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 isolated mode is a security > > improvement, t

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 13.03.2014 12:34, schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: > Christian Heimes writes: > > > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? > > Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are > no irrelevant half-naked glistening bodies. (Former newts in the pond > don

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-03-13 11:49 GMT+01:00 Christian Heimes : > * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including > hostname matching and CRL. > > * http://bugs.python.org/issue16499 isolated mode is a security > improvement, too. Ok, I added these two items. Antoine wrote: > CRL? really? I don

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le 13/03/2014 11:49, Christian Heimes a écrit : Thanks a lot David and Victor! The list of security improvements is missing one, maybe two points that are IMHO relevant: * All stdlib modules now support server cert verification including hostname matching and CRL. CRL? really? I don't remember

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian Heimes writes: > But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are no irrelevant half-naked glistening bodies. (Former newts in the pond don't count.) Seriously, while "expect a clean build" is not "news

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-13 Thread Christian Heimes
On 11.03.2014 13:18, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks David! I added a summary of security improvements: > http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.4.html#summary-release-highlights > > Can someone please review it? Don't hesitate to modify the text > directly. Check also if the summary is com

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 12 Mar 2014 02:21, "Eric V. Smith" wrote: > > On 3/11/2014 9:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > > 2014-03-11 13:28 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : > >> I was thinking of adding a new "Migrating from Python 2" section at > >> the end of the porting guide, noting the changed recommendations in > >> the migr

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Eric V. Smith
On 3/11/2014 9:05 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > 2014-03-11 13:28 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : >> I was thinking of adding a new "Migrating from Python 2" section at >> the end of the porting guide, noting the changed recommendations in >> the migration guide (i.e. people that read it a while ago should r

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Victor Stinner
2014-03-11 13:28 GMT+01:00 Nick Coghlan : > I was thinking of adding a new "Migrating from Python 2" section at > the end of the porting guide, noting the changed recommendations in > the migration guide (i.e. people that read it a while ago should read > it again), as well as the restoration of th

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 11 March 2014 12:05, R. David Murray wrote: > In addition to the items in Serhiy's list that didn't have news entries, > there were a couple of features that were added after Beta1. So there > might be some other features with missing versionadded/changed tags in > the NEWS sections I didn't g

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-11 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, Thanks David! I added a summary of security improvements: http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.4.html#summary-release-highlights Can someone please review it? Don't hesitate to modify the text directly. Check also if the summary is complete. Victor 2014-03-11 3:05 GMT+01:00 R. David Murray

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Snow
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:05 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > Well, I think What's New for 3.4 is done. I've been through all of the > NEWS items from the start of 3.4 through the beta1 release. > > I'm pretty much out of time for this project since > Final is almost upon us. I'll be making at least

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

2014-03-10 Thread Eric V. Smith
Thanks for all of the great work! -- Eric. > On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:05 PM, "R. David Murray" wrote: > > Well, I think What's New for 3.4 is done. I've been through all of the > NEWS items from the start of 3.4 through the beta1 release. I've gone > over the list of changes Serhiy found via th