Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:36, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:13:12 +0800 > Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: >> Although 2.7 has the new buffer interface and memoryview >> objects, these are widely not accepted in the built in modules. > > That's true, and slightly unfortunate. It co

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
2010/11/1 Kristján Valur Jónsson : > Ah, yes.  There are, in my case.  (why do I always seem to be doing stuff > that is different from what you all are doing:) I would guess that most of us aren't writing MMOs for a living. Gamers seem to be a particularly demanding breed of user :) Cheers, Nic

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-01 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
ity: let memoryview[:] return self, since the object is immutable, I believe. K > -Original Message- > From: "Martin v. Löwis" [mailto:mar...@v.loewis.de] > Sent: 1. nóvember 2010 14:22 > To: Kristján Valur Jónsson > Cc: python-dev@python.org > S

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-01 Thread Stefan Behnel
Stefan Behnel, 01.11.2010 09:45: If slice object creation bothers you here, it might be worth using a free list in PySlice_New() instead of creating new slice objects on request. [...] You can take a look at how it's done in tupleoject.c if you want to provide a patch. Hmm, that's actually a pa

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-01 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
hon-dev@python.org > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7 > > Kristján Valur Jónsson, 27.10.2010 16:28: > > Notice how a Slice object is generated. Then a PyObject_GetItem() > is > > done. The salient code path is from apply_slice(). A slice object > must

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-01 Thread Stefan Behnel
Kristján Valur Jónsson, 27.10.2010 16:28: Notice how a Slice object is generated. Then a PyObject_GetItem() is done. The salient code path is from apply_slice(). A slice object must be constructed and destroyed. If slice object creation bothers you here, it might be worth using a free list

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-11-01 Thread Stefan Behnel
Kristján Valur Jónsson, 27.10.2010 16:32: Sorry, here the tables properly formatted: Certainly looked better on your first try. Stefan ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-31 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>> def read_and_unpack(stream, format): >> data = stream.read(struct.calcsize(format)) >> return struct.unpack(format, data) >> >>> Otherwise, I'm +1 on your suggestion, avoiding copying is a good >>> thing. >> >> I believe my function also doesn't involve any unnecessary copies. > You just

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-31 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of "Martin v. Löwis" Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 18:15 To: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7 That is easy to achiev

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Actually I would like code like > s = socket() > ... > header = struct.unpack("i", s) > > In other words, struct should interact with files/streams directly, instead > of > requiring me to first read a chunk who's size I manually have to determine > etc. That is easy to achieve using t

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
python.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Pitrou Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 20:15 To: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7 On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:00:10 +0800 Kristján Valur Jónsson mailto:krist...@ccpgames.com>> wrote: > Calling getbuffer on a bytearra

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7 Ah, well in 2.7 you don't have the luxury of a bytes object. A str() would be similar in 2.7 Anyway, isn't the "bytes" object immutable? In that case, it is not a useful target for a sock.recv_into() call. Ca

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
unces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of Kristján Valur Jónsson Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 20:00 To: Antoine Pitrou; python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7 Ah, well in 2.7 you don't have the luxury of a bytes object. A str() would be simi

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:00:10 +0800 Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: > Calling getbuffer on a bytearray or a bytes object should > be really cheap, so I still don't accept this as a matter of fact > situation. It *is* cheap. It's just that copying a short slice is dirt cheap as well. Of course, it y

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
ednesday, October 27, 2010 19:16 To: python-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7 > >Here are micro-benchmarks under 3.2: > > > $ ./python -m timeit -s "x = b'x'*1" "x[:100]" > > 1000 loops, best of 3: 0.134 usec per

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
> >Here are micro-benchmarks under 3.2: > > > $ ./python -m timeit -s "x = b'x'*1" "x[:100]" > > 1000 loops, best of 3: 0.134 usec per loop > > $ ./python -m timeit -s "x = memoryview(b'x'*1)" "x[:100]" > > 1000 loops, best of 3: 0.151 usec per loop > > That's weird. The greedy

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
-Original Message- From: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of Antoine Pitrou Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 18:36 >Here are micro-benchmarks under 3.2: > $ ./python -m timeit -s "x = b'x'*1000

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 10:13:12 +0800 Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: > Although 2.7 has the new buffer interface and memoryview > objects, these are widely not accepted in the built in modules. That's true, and slightly unfortunate. It could be a reason for switching to 3.1/3.2 :-) > IMHO this is un

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-27 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
On Wednesday 27 October 2010, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote: > Although 2.7 has the new buffer interface and memoryview objects, these are > widely not accepted in the built in modules. Examples are the structmodule, > some of the socketmodule apis, structmodule, etc. > > IMHO this is unfortunate.

Re: [Python-Dev] new buffer in python2.7

2010-10-26 Thread Kristján Valur Jónsson
Not forgetggin the StringI object in cStringIO. IMHO, not accepting buffers by these objects can be consided a bug, that needs fixing. K From: python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org [mailto:python-dev-bounces+kristjan=ccpgames@python.org] On Behalf Of Kristján Valur Jónsson Sen