Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller wrote: > Would it be a solution to move the 'official' ctypes development into > Python SVN external/ctypes, or would this be considered abuse? Another > location in SVN could be used as well, if external is though to contain > only vendor drops... external indeed is meant only for

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes (was: Re: integrating ctypes into python)

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Wouters
On 3/10/06, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Would it be a solution to move the 'official' ctypes development intoPython SVN external/ctypes, or would this be considered abuse?  Anotherlocation in SVN could be used as well, if external is though to contain only vendor drops...If all the dev

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Heller
Thomas Wouters wrote: > On 3/10/06, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Would it be a solution to move the 'official' ctypes development into >> Python SVN external/ctypes, or would this be considered abuse? Another >> location in SVN could be used as well, if external is though to cont

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 09:01 +0100, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > I personally don't mind having the "upstream" ctypes repository also > in svn.python.org; this would be similar to distutils, setuptools, > and (I think) the email package. Currently, some of them live in > sandbox/trunk, but I wouldn't

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Tim Peters
[Thomas Heller] > ... > In the meantime, please: If anyone is going to make fixes to the ctypes source > code (apart from Tim's regular whitespace cleanup), please do this in the > ctypes CVS repository on sourceforge, in the trunk. FYI, my regular whitespace cleanup consists of running reindent.p

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Heller
Tim Peters wrote: > [Thomas Heller] >> ... >> In the meantime, please: If anyone is going to make fixes to the ctypes >> source >> code (apart from Tim's regular whitespace cleanup), please do this in the >> ctypes CVS repository on sourceforge, in the trunk. > > FYI, my regular whitespace cleanu

[Python-Dev] multidict API

2006-03-10 Thread Ian Bicking
I'm not really making any actionable proposal here, so maybe this is off-topic; if so, sorry. Back during the defaultdict discussion I proposed a multidict object (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-February/061264.html) -- right now I need to implement one to represent web form s

Re: [Python-Dev] multidict API

2006-03-10 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Ian Bicking] > The question then is what the API should look like for such an object -- > an ordered, multi-value dictionary. May I suggest that multidict begin it's life as a cookbook recipe so that its API can mature. Raymond ___ Python-Dev mai

Re: [Python-Dev] multidict API

2006-03-10 Thread Ian Bicking
Raymond Hettinger wrote: > [Ian Bicking] > >>The question then is what the API should look like for such an object -- >>an ordered, multi-value dictionary. > > > May I suggest that multidict begin it's life as a cookbook recipe so that its > API can mature. There's already quite a few recipes

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Neal Norwitz
On 3/10/06, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW: The buildbot reports ctypes test failures on the gentoo amd64 machine: > > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/trunk/amd64%20gentoo%20trunk/builds/277/step-test/0 > > Is there a way to get the actual failures somehow? Running the tests i

Re: [Python-Dev] ctypes is in SVN now.

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Heller
Tim Peters wrote: > [Thomas Heller] >> ... >> And I never had tried it before on a sparc machine - all the intel and ppc >> processors >> seem to have no problems with it. > > Pentiums don't enforce "natural" alignment restrictions, but run much > slower on unaligned access (varying by specific c

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller wrote: > BTW: The buildbot reports ctypes test failures on the gentoo amd64 machine: FWIW, ctypes doesn't even build on a Windows AMD64 machine. It wants to use the Windows x86 FFI code, which does not compile with the AMD64 compiler. Regards, Martin

Re: [Python-Dev] unicodedata.c no longer compiles on Windows

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Tim Peters wrote: > It's griping about this: > > /* Forward declaration */ > static PyMethodDef unicodedata_functions[]; This is now fixed. Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsu

Re: [Python-Dev] multidict API

2006-03-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 11:25 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: > I'm not really making any actionable proposal here, so maybe this is > off-topic; if so, sorry. > > Back during the defaultdict discussion I proposed a multidict object > (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-February/061264.htm

Re: [Python-Dev] multidict API

2006-03-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 12:12 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: > There's already quite a few recipes out there. But I should probably > collect them as well. > > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/odict.html > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/107747 > http://aspn.activestate.com/A

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Heller
Martin v. Löwis wrote: > Thomas Heller wrote: >> BTW: The buildbot reports ctypes test failures on the gentoo amd64 machine: > > FWIW, ctypes doesn't even build on a Windows AMD64 machine. It wants to > use the Windows x86 FFI code, which does not compile with the AMD64 > compiler. On such a mach

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Neal Norwitz wrote: > I want to modify regrtest so the traceback info is stored in a file, > so you can still retrieve the data after a test run. I haven't > started making this mod yet. I took a different approach now, adding an option to regrtest to re-run failed tests in verbose mode; this is

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Heller
Neal Norwitz wrote: > On 3/10/06, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> BTW: The buildbot reports ctypes test failures on the gentoo amd64 machine: >> >> http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/trunk/amd64%20gentoo%20trunk/builds/277/step-test/0 >> >> Is there a way to get the actual failures some

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller wrote: >>FWIW, ctypes doesn't even build on a Windows AMD64 machine. It wants to >>use the Windows x86 FFI code, which does not compile with the AMD64 >>compiler. > > > On such a machine probably other source files should be used. I have no such > machine - is it possible to build

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller wrote: > """ > test_set > test_ctypes > test test_ctypes failed -- Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/Users/buildslave/bb/trunk.4/build/Lib/ctypes/test/test_leaks.py", > line 68, in test_cycles_refcount > self.fail("leaking refcounts") > AssertionError: leaking refcoun

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Thomas Heller wrote: > BTW: The buildbot reports ctypes test failures on the gentoo amd64 machine: > > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/trunk/amd64%20gentoo%20trunk/builds/277/step-test/0 > > Is there a way to get the actual failures somehow? They are now in http://www.python.org/dev/buildb

Re: [Python-Dev] Making builtins more efficient

2006-03-10 Thread Greg Ewing
Guido van Rossum wrote: > I don't think we should make any of these keywords. Not even True and False? The only good reasons I can see for anyone wanting to shadow these are backwards compatibility ones. Greg ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@pyth

Re: [Python-Dev] Making builtins more efficient

2006-03-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/10/06, Greg Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > > I don't think we should make any of these keywords. > > Not even True and False? The only good reasons > I can see for anyone wanting to shadow these > are backwards compatibility ones. Not even True and False. I do

[Python-Dev] Still looking for volunteer to run Windows buildbot

2006-03-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Josiah Carlson told me had has given up getting a Windows buildbot running, because every time he installed VS.NET on his machine, the installation would immediately crash. So if anybody wants to contribute both a machine and time to operate it (including the likely very tedious phase to get any r

Re: [Python-Dev] Making builtins more efficient

2006-03-10 Thread Neil Schemenauer
Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not even True and False. > > I don't see why everything that doesn't make sense to be shadowed > ought to become a keyword. That way lies madness. Have you considered whether P3K will disallow names from being shadowed in such as way as to prevent the

Re: [Python-Dev] Making builtins more efficient

2006-03-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On 3/10/06, Neil Schemenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not even True and False. > > > > I don't see why everything that doesn't make sense to be shadowed > > ought to become a keyword. That way lies madness. > > Have you considered whether P3K will

Re: [Python-Dev] Developing/patching ctypes

2006-03-10 Thread Trent Mick
> > On such a machine probably other source files should be used. I have no > > such > > machine - is it possible to build the 64-bit version on a 32-bit machine > > (with > > the platform SDK)? > > Indeed, this is possible. I don't know of anybody who does so, so far, > but in principle, the p