Re: [Python-Dev] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Stephen Hansen
> > > > IMHO, the main system without a package manager is Windows. > > > > AFAICT the MacOS platform also lacks in this area. > > Actually, they both have them. Windows has Cygwin (rpm-based), while > for MacOS Fink (deb-based), MacPorts (FreeBSD ports-like), and > NetBSD's pkgsrc are all viab

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Joachim König
Phillip J. Eby wrote: > It would be, if .eggs were a packaging format, rather than a binary > distribution/runtime format. > > Remember "eggs are to Python as jars are to Java" -- a Java .jar > doesn't contain documentation either, unless it's needed at > runtime. Same for configuration files.

Re: [Python-Dev] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Stephen Hansen writes: > > > > > > IMHO, the main system without a package manager is Windows. > > > > > > AFAICT the MacOS platform also lacks in this area. > > > > Actually, they both have them. Windows has Cygwin (rpm-based), while > > for MacOS Fink (deb-based), MacPorts (FreeBSD por

Re: [Python-Dev] how to easily consume just the parts of eggs that are good for you

2008-04-10 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:12 AM 4/10/2008 -0700, Stephen Hansen wrote: >I think PJE's idea here is very good. Just include certain files and >such in the RPM/DEB that will satisfy the >"python-package-management" system. For RPM/DEB users and their OS's >database of packages, its irrelevant largely-- they'll still

Re: [Python-Dev] Next monthly sprint/bugfix day?

2008-04-10 Thread Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel
On Wed, Apr 09 2008 at 11:12:58AM BRT, Trent Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is there another online sprint/bugfix day in the pipeline? If not, can > there be? ;-) +1. The Sao Paulo User's Group gathered to work on the last Bug Day, and I think it was very productive (both for gener

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python on a biarch (PPC/PPC64)

2008-04-10 Thread Sérgio Durigan Júnior
Hi Martin, On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 23:27 +0200, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > > Can anyone give me a hand on this? As far as I could > > investigate, I must change setup.py in order to get this issue fixed, > > right? > > Wrong. I didn't read your entire message, but this is definitely wrong. > setup.

Re: [Python-Dev] Compiling Python on a biarch (PPC/PPC64)

2008-04-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> If I understood correctly, you're saying that Python's building process > involves only the C compiler, right? So, in order to fix this issue that > I've found, I only need to modify configure.in file (and maybe > Makefile.pre.in). Is that correct? Correct. There are also some additional shell s

[Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
I know that doing merges is rather painful because of the Misc/NEWS files. Would it be possible to have the NEWS log generated from commit messages? I was thinking something like this in a message: Fixed this and that **NEWS:Library** #1234 X is now known as Y. It should be fairly simple to writ

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
In the past we haven't done that because often the change logs are either too chatty (they do administrative stuff that doesn't deserve a NEWS entry) or they are too brief (in the heat of the battle developers don't always write great changelog entries). While it's easy to fix NEWS its not easy to

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the past we haven't done that because often the change logs are > either too chatty (they do administrative stuff that doesn't deserve a > NEWS entry) or they are too brief (in the heat of the battle > developers d

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Benjamin Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the past we haven't done that because often the change logs are > > either too chatty (they do administrative stuff that doesn't des

Re: [Python-Dev] generated NEWS files

2008-04-10 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, there's the issue of which section of the NEWS file an entry > should be added. That's often subjective. > Agreed. For example we have both Library and Extension Module categories in the NEWS file. I always e