Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker cleanup roadmap

2009-02-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Let's improve the tracker UI to better fit our needs. Then, classify them bugs and separate garbage from real development. Lastly, bug reporters should get a better UI. That's it, any help is welcome. The plan sounds great. I can help with the deployment aspects (reviewing tracker patches,

[Python-Dev] Patch logging module for IronPython compatibility

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Foord
Hello all, Issue 5287 is a patch for the logging module for compatibility with IronPython. IronPython provides sys._getframe but it throws an exception if you call it with a non-zero depth. This may be fixed in a future version of IronPython. http://bugs.python.org/issue5287 It doesn't at all

Re: [Python-Dev] To 3.0.2 or not to 3.0.2?

2009-02-17 Thread Victor Stinner
Le Tuesday 17 February 2009 08:52:20 Lennart Regebro, vous avez écrit : On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 00:50, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: Can you explain the difficulty with porting setuptools in more detail? Oh, it just exposes a bug in distutils. It probably means I'll have to make a

Re: [Python-Dev] Patch logging module for IronPython compatibility

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Foord
Michael Foord wrote: Hello all, Issue 5287 is a patch for the logging module for compatibility with IronPython. IronPython provides sys._getframe but it throws an exception if you call it with a non-zero depth. This may be fixed in a future version of IronPython.

Re: [Python-Dev] To 3.0.2 or not to 3.0.2?

2009-02-17 Thread Samuele Pedroni
Victor Stinner wrote: Le Tuesday 17 February 2009 08:52:20 Lennart Regebro, vous avez écrit : On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 00:50, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: Can you explain the difficulty with porting setuptools in more detail? Oh, it just exposes a bug in distutils.

Re: [Python-Dev] Wow!

2009-02-17 Thread Lie Ryan
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:04:35 +1300, Greg Ewing wrote: Leif Walsh wrote: If only we had a second Earth to mess with, we could just copy and swap. Or we could use a generational approach, doing all our messy stuff around the moon and copying to earth when we've got our traffic control

Re: [Python-Dev] Closing outdated Mac issues

2009-02-17 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 15 Feb, 2009, at 21:13, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: Hi, In the discussion of a feature request for MacPython[1], the OP (hhas) said: As of Python 2.6/3.0, all Mac-specific modules are deprecated/ eliminated from the standard library and there are no longer any plans to submit

Re: [Python-Dev] draft 3.1 release schedule

2009-02-17 Thread Gregor Lingl
Benjamin Peterson schrieb: On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote... Something like this? 3.1a1 March 7 3.1a2 April 4 3.1b1 May 2 3.1rc1 May 30 3.1rc2 June 13 3.1 Final June 27 That sounds reasonable. I will try to enforce a fairly strict

Re: [Python-Dev] To 3.0.2 or not to 3.0.2?

2009-02-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Samuele Pedroni pedro...@openend.se wrote: Didn't a test fail because of this? seems the underlying issue is that this part of the stdlib didn't have enough test coverage. It seems that having very good/improving test coverage like is recommended for 3rd-party

[Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread David Russell
Dear Python Group, First of all sorry for the unsolicited email, I have attached two very interesting long term Python projects in the Frankfurt area, Financial industry. I am working exclusively with the client on both requirements, interviews and contracts can be arranged very

Re: [Python-Dev] draft 3.1 release schedule

2009-02-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote: I've started a list on the release PEP [1]. [1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0375/ Is the intention to release 2.7 and 3.1 in parallel? No. I suspect, comparing this to

Re: [Python-Dev] draft 3.1 release schedule

2009-02-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 17, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Gregor Lingl wrote: Is the intention to release 2.7 and 3.1 in parallel? I don't think we should this time. We want to get 3.1 out sooner than the typical 18 month development cycle, and I think we should

[Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread David Russell
Dear Python Development Group, First of all sorry for the unsolicited email, I have attached two very interesting long term Python projects in the Frankfurt area, Financial industry. I am working exclusively with the client on both requirements, interviews and contracts can be arranged

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker cleanup report

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Paul Moore wrote: 2009/2/16 Daniel (ajax) Diniz aja...@gmail.com: Hi, Here's a summary of what's been accomplished and what's almost done. This kinda marks the end of this Bug Season for me, but I'd like to do at least one more installment before PyCon. Can I, for one, offer a *huge* round

Re: [Python-Dev] Closing outdated Mac issues

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi Ned, Ned Deily wrote: Other than Mac/Modules, the rest of the Mac/ directory is mainly stuff used for building or going into the OS X installer images, including things like IDLE.app. These are used in 2.x and in 3.x. Thanks, knowing that makes the ticket handling easier! There are 40 C

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Aahz
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009, David Russell wrote: Dear Python Development Group, First of all sorry for the unsolicited email, This is spam, and you have now jeopardized your correct posting to the Python Job Board. The other website administrators will be informed and we will discuss whether

Re: [Python-Dev] Closing outdated Mac issues

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Hi, Ronald, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 15 Feb, 2009, at 21:13, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: Hi, In the discussion of a feature request for MacPython[1], the OP (hhas) said: As of Python 2.6/3.0, all Mac-specific modules are deprecated/eliminated from the standard library and there are

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker cleanup report

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Brett Cannon wrote: Ditto from me! And I will eventually get to the bugs assigned to me (hopefully starting some time this week). No hurry, just let me know if you see stupid mistakes on my part (I've once or twice added an issue as its own dependency) :) Daniel

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker cleanup report

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
Jack Jansen wrote: I had a cursory look at these issues as they came by, and I didn't see any that struck me as still being relevant. Thanks a lot for the feedback, Jack! Daniel ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread David Russell
Dear Aahz, I understand your point but the line should be drawn between somebody selling Viagra or insurance to someone like me who is offering an opportunity to a suitable candidate to work on a Python project developing a new global trading system for a world leading financial institution. I

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Tim Peters
[Aahz] ... This is spam, and you have now jeopardized your correct posting to the Python Job Board. The other website administrators will be informed and we will discuss whether spamming python-dev warrants withdrawing it. To be fair, a python-dev moderator approved the posting, so in their

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Steve Holden
David: Perhaps you'd like to give me your company's internal mailing list address so I can drop your staff a line when I hear of Python conferences going on your area. Or maybe that's not what the list is for? This list, as is clearly stated at http://www.python.org/community/lists/ is for

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Steve Holden
Steve Holden wrote: David: Perhaps you'd like to give me your company's internal mailing list address so I can drop your staff a line when I hear of Python conferences going on your area. Or maybe that's not what the list is for? [...] Just to close this out Aahz and I received an

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Foord
Tim Peters wrote: [Aahz] ... This is spam, and you have now jeopardized your correct posting to the Python Job Board. The other website administrators will be informed and we will discuss whether spamming python-dev warrants withdrawing it. To be fair, a python-dev moderator approved

Re: [Python-Dev] 2 very interesting projects - Python / Finance

2009-02-17 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On 17/02/2009 17:55, Steve Holden wrote: is for work on developing Python. Hence your posting (and your protestations of innocence) is unsolicited commercial email, AKA spam. Python users who are looking for jobs know about the jobs board, where you have already submitted vacancy notices (now

[Python-Dev] 30-bit PyLong digits in 3.1?

2009-02-17 Thread Mark Dickinson
A few months ago there was a discussion [1] about changing Python's long integer type to use base 2**30 instead of base 2**15. http://bugs.python.org/issue4258 was opened for this. With much help from many people (but especially Antoine and Victor), I've finally managed to put together an

Re: [Python-Dev] 30-bit PyLong digits in 3.1?

2009-02-17 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I'd like to get this in for 3.1. Any objections or comments? Can you please upload it to Rietveld also? Is this PEP territory? I don't think so. Martin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

[Python-Dev] Python 2.6.2 and 3.0.2

2009-02-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thinking again about 3.0.2. If we'd like to do bug fix releases before Pycon, I suggest Monday March 9th for code freeze and tagging. That would mean a Tuesday March 10th release. What do you think? Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [Python-Dev] 30-bit PyLong digits in 3.1?

2009-02-17 Thread Mark Dickinson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Can you please upload it to Rietveld also? Will do. I'm getting a 500 Server Error at the moment, but I'll keep trying. Mark ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] 30-bit PyLong digits in 3.1?

2009-02-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
Use the upload.py script (/static/upload.py) rather than the Create Issue page. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Can you please upload it to Rietveld also? Will do. I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] 30-bit PyLong digits in 3.1?

2009-02-17 Thread Mark Dickinson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: Use the upload.py script (/static/upload.py) rather than the Create Issue page. Thanks. That worked. http://codereview.appspot.com/14105 ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] To 3.0.2 or not to 3.0.2?

2009-02-17 Thread Georg Brandl
Benjamin Peterson schrieb: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Samuele Pedroni pedro...@openend.se wrote: Didn't a test fail because of this? seems the underlying issue is that this part of the stdlib didn't have enough test coverage. It seems that having very good/improving test coverage like is

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues to be closed: objections?

2009-02-17 Thread John J Lee
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: http://bugs.python.org/issue809887 Improve pdb breakpoint feedback Why this one? John ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe:

Re: [Python-Dev] To 3.0.2 or not to 3.0.2?

2009-02-17 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote: Benjamin Peterson schrieb: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Samuele Pedroni pedro...@openend.se wrote: Didn't a test fail because of this? seems the underlying issue is that this part of the stdlib didn't have enough test

[Python-Dev] -Qwarn and -3

2009-02-17 Thread Raymond Hettinger
If someone sets the -3 option to get py3k warnings, should the classic division warning get turned-on automatically? Right now, I get no warnings for: python -3 -c 9 / 5 Raymond ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] -Qwarn and -3

2009-02-17 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote: If someone sets the -3 option to get py3k warnings, should the classic division warning get turned-on automatically? Right now, I get no warnings for: python -3 -c 9 / 5 I think you have a point. -- --Guido van

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues to be closed: objections?

2009-02-17 Thread Daniel (ajax) Diniz
John J Lee wrote: On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote: http://bugs.python.org/issue809887 Improve pdb breakpoint feedback Why this one? Nice catch, this makes no sense. The patch even applies almost cleanly. I'll update it and set the others to pending, so further objections can

Re: [Python-Dev] Tracker cleanup roadmap

2009-02-17 Thread Brett Cannon
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 00:15, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Let's improve the tracker UI to better fit our needs. Then, classify them bugs and separate garbage from real development. Lastly, bug reporters should get a better UI. That's it, any help is welcome. The plan