I didn't get any response to this. I know that it is a 2.7 patch, but I´m
willing to port it to 3.x, if there is interest.
Supporting parallel compilation is a big win.
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Am 28.10.2010 06:13, schrieb Daniel Stutzbach:
2010/10/27 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com
mailto:krist...@ccpgames.com
Firstly, the ease of integrating changes. It would be possible to port
those bugfixes that release-27 gets, and also backport selected things
from
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 08:48, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
I believe we'll eventually have the ability to create user repos as well, so
that Kristjan can simply put his branch into one of these and still have it
on hg.python.org.
+1.
Cheers,
Dirkjan
2010/10/28 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
But the patient is very much alive and kicking, no matter what the good
doctor declares.
No no! 'E's pining!
Schiavo
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Hi Martin,
I got no reply concerning those modifications to the buildbot script so
that I could run 2 slaves on AIX.
I am able to spend some time at the moment on Python for AIX because we
are migrating the product in my company from AIX 5.3 to AIX 6.1.
However once this is done, by the end
Le jeudi 28 octobre 2010 05:12:09, James Y Knight a écrit :
The python community has already decided many times over that Python2 is
dead and Python3 is the future. ... I think you'd be best off doing
so on your own infrastructure: convincing the python developers to support
such a thing is
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 23:05:37 -0500
Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote:
2010/10/27 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
Firstly, the ease of integrating changes. It would be possible to port
those bugfixes that release-27 gets, and also backport selected things from
py3k
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
If you see MemoryError (5 bytes), the things you go looking for are
very different from those you look for when you see MemoryError(1
gajillion bytes). (i.e. for the former, you look for a memory or other
resource leak,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Facundo Batista
facundobati...@gmail.com wrote:
So, beyond it's arguable utility, do you think that having that
information could harm us in some way?
I think the idea is sound in principle, but may run into some
practical implementation problems due to special
Let’s move the current ‘trunk’ into /branches/afterlife-27. Open it for
submissions from people such as myself that use 2.7 on a regular basis
and are willing to give it some extra love. Host it there without the
usual stringent python quality assurance, buildbot support, release
management
Furthermore, our server is fairly complex: we're using quite some
libraries to do different jobs, and one of the approaches (not the
only one) that we're taking to deal with this beast is to analyze its
memory-related behaviour from an external POV (thinking it as a black
box).
So, beyond
2010/10/28 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
Hello all.
So, python 2.7 is in bugfix only mode. ‘trunk’ is off limit. So, where
does one make improvements to the distinguished, and still very much alive,
2.x series of Python?
The answer would seem to be “one doesn’t”. But must
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Furthermore, our server is fairly complex: we're using quite some
libraries to do different jobs, and one of the approaches (not the
only one) that we're taking to deal with this beast is to analyze its
memory-related
Am 28.10.2010 15:14, schrieb Martin v. Löwis:
Furthermore, our server is fairly complex: we're using quite some
libraries to do different jobs, and one of the approaches (not the
only one) that we're taking to deal with this beast is to analyze its
memory-related behaviour from an external POV
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:54:50 +0200
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 28.10.2010 15:14, schrieb Martin v. Löwis:
Furthermore, our server is fairly complex: we're using quite some
libraries to do different jobs, and one of the approaches (not the
only one) that we're taking to deal with
I got no reply concerning those modifications to the buildbot script so
that I could run 2 slaves on AIX.
I'm really really reluctant here. The proposed/requested changes are
fairly intrusive, even though AIX is just a minority platform. So I need
to find some time to rewrite them, which I
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:38:47 +0200
Sébastien Sablé sa...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Could you please take a look at those modifications in master.cfg,
provide me some password for the bot slaves and apply the corrections in
those issues?
About the master.cfg modifications: there should
Who is the target audience for a Python 2.8? What exactly would a Python 2.8
accomplish?
If Python 2.8 doesn't include new features, well, then what's the point?
Python 2.7 will be bug fix maintained for a long time, longer in fact than
previous Python 2 versions. So a no-feature Python 2.8
Kristj?n Valur J?nsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes:
James Y Knight said:
The python community has already decided many times over that Python2 is dead
and Python3 is the future
But the patient is very much alive and kicking, no matter what the good
doctor
declares. Python 2.x is in
On 04:04 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
I'd *much* rather this enthusiasm be spent on making Python 3 rock, and
in
porting third party code to Python 3.
Enthusiasm isn't fungible.
Jean-Paul
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 04:17 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 04:04 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
I'd *much* rather this enthusiasm be spent on making Python 3 rock, and in
porting third party code to Python 3.
Enthusiasm isn't fungible.
Maybe so, but I think it's actually more fun to be
Am 28.10.2010 18:07, schrieb l...@rmi.net:
Kristj?n Valur J?nsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes:
James Y Knight said:
The python community has already decided many times over that Python2 is
dead
and Python3 is the future
But the patient is very much alive and kicking, no matter what the
Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com wrote:
Let's move the current 'trunk' into /branches/afterlife-27. Open it
for submissions from people such as myself that use 2.7 on a regular
basis and are willing to give it some extra love.
Though I'm not personally convinced it's a good idea,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:07 PM, l...@rmi.net wrote:
..
Has anyone here analyzed download stats on py.org lately?
Please feel free to prove me wrong, but by my reckoning,
and at least for Windows MSI installer files, people are
still downloading Python 2.X roughly 3 to 4 times more often
On Oct 28, 2010, at 04:07 PM, l...@rmi.net wrote:
I hope 3.X use expands; in fact, I've bet the future of at
least one book on it. And even 1/4 of new users seems a
large enough subset to care about too. But one can't help
but wonder if most of the development community is focused
on some
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:07:50 -, l...@rmi.net wrote:
I hope 3.X use expands; in fact, I've bet the future of at
least one book on it. And even 1/4 of new users seems a
large enough subset to care about too. But one can't help
but wonder if most of the development community is focused
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
Who is the target audience for a Python 2.8? What exactly would a Python
2.8
accomplish?
If Python 2.8 doesn't include new features, well, then what's the point?
Python 2.7 will be bug fix maintained for a long time,
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 28.10.2010 06:13, schrieb Daniel Stutzbach:
2010/10/27 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com
mailto:krist...@ccpgames.com
Firstly, the ease of integrating changes. It would be possible to port
those
Barry Warsaw writes:
Maybe so, but I think it's actually more fun to be working on
something other people will actually use. ;)
I think that the point is that the people will be doing this are
supporting software to pay for Johnny's piano lessons, not for
personal pleasure. I imagine many,
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Who is the target audience for a Python 2.8? What exactly would a Python 2.8
accomplish?
If Python 2.8 doesn't include new features, well, then what's the point?
Python 2.7 will be bug fix maintained
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On 10/28/2010 09:33 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
2010/10/28 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
Hello all.
So, python 2.7 is in bugfix only mode. ‘trunk’ is off limit. So, where
does one make improvements to the distinguished, and still
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:25:28 -0700
Ian Bicking i...@colorstudy.com wrote:
Thinking about language features and core type this seems reasonable, but
with the standard library this seems less reasonable -- there's lots of
conservative changes to the standard library which aren't bug fixes, and
On 28/10/2010 13:20, R. David Murray wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:07:50 -, l...@rmi.net wrote:
I hope 3.X use expands; in fact, I've bet the future of at
least one book on it. And even 1/4 of new users seems a
large enough subset to care about too. But one can't help
but wonder if most
l...@rmi.net writes:
But one can't help but wonder if most of the development community
is focused on some imaginary future user base, at the expense of
the much larger current user base.
Of course not. Most of the development community is *focused* on a
very real, very current, and very
(and, believe me, not having to backport new 3.x features to the 2.x
branch makes our work much easier than it was; people generally seem
to underestimate the amount of care needed for such things, especially
in areas where 2.x is significantly more complex - old-style classes,
two parallel
Am 28.10.2010 18:07, schrieb l...@rmi.net:
Kristj?n Valur J?nsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes:
James Y Knight said:
The python community has already decided many times over that Python2 is
dead
and Python3 is the future
But the patient is very much alive and kicking, no matter what the
I have just discovered that sphinx supports running doctests embedded
in ReST documentation. It looks like it is as simple as cd Doc;
make doctest. The result, however is not encouraging:
$ make doctest
...
Doctest summary
===
1162 tests
262 failures in tests
0 failures in
On the second look, the problem may not be that bad - make doctest
picks up system python instead of the one from the source tree. I'll
try to figure out how to rerun the doctests properly.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
I have just
Can anybody summarize the outcome?
Is it that renaming BadZipfile to BadZipFile with backward compatible
alias and deprecation note breaks something?
--
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On the second look, the problem may not be that bad ...
Nope, the problem is even worse. It looks like Sphinx in py3k
requires 2.x python:
$ ../python.exe tools/sphinx-build.py -b doctest -d
On Oct 28, 2010, at 04:57 PM, Alexander Belopolsky wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On the second look, the problem may not be that bad ...
Nope, the problem is even worse. It looks like Sphinx in py3k
requires 2.x python:
$
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
..
It would be really cool if you fixed this! wink
Working on it. Stay tuned. :-)
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote:
..
It would be really cool if you fixed this! wink
Working on it. Stay tuned. :-)
See http://bugs.python.org/issue10224
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
I think that assumption may not be warranted. If the current core folks
are focused only on developing Python 3, but others are working on a
notional 2.8, there is no necessary correlation any longer between the
two.
Hi all.
This has been a lively discussion.
My desire to keep 2.x alive in some sense is my own and I don't know if anyone
shares it but as a member of this community I think I'm allowed to voice it.
So, just to clarify my particular position, let me explain where all this comes
from.
I am
2010/10/28 victor.stinner python-check...@python.org:
Author: victor.stinner
Date: Fri Oct 29 02:38:58 2010
New Revision: 85902
Log:
Issue #10210: os.get_exec_path() ignores BytesWarning warnings
Modified:
python/branches/py3k/Lib/os.py
python/branches/py3k/Lib/test/test_os.py
2010/10/28 Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com:
Hi all.
This has been a lively discussion.
My desire to keep 2.x alive in some sense is my own and I don't know if
anyone shares it but as a member of this community I think I'm allowed to
voice it. So, just to clarify my particular
Brett Cannon writes:
I think people need to stop viewing the difference between Python 2.7
and Python 3.2 as this crazy shift and view it from python-dev's
perspective;
That phrasing *is* harsh. People also need to work with code bases
that are incompatible with Python 3.2 for various
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